US Election 2020 - Pt 2

[Emjay]

Birth control is a... choice.

You get that, right?

Also, let me commend you on your bravery for your proximity to the forced hysterectomy discussion... I was sure you were going to do your best to ignore and avoid it.

I have read all the material on the ICE allegations. I am going to withhold judgement on this until there is an investigation. Or is that not the correct thing to do?

How you remind me about the time I posted very uncomfortable truths around trafficking of aborted tissue and was attacked by most people gasping about this issue. And how many women are lied to about their abortions (it's just a clump of cells!).

One was was labelled a conspiracy and did not really happen, and the other has drawn comparisons to Nazism.

 

[konfab]

Those seem to be your narratives not mine, glad you agree the narrative of mail in votes is bs though.

Some amount of mail in ballots is ok.

What I think is a very legitimate concern just from a logistical POV is to instantly scale a system that only takes a tiny fraction of the votes, to taking all the votes. Heck, the likes of Amazon has to spend millions to get their online shop to work over black Friday, and all they have to do is spin up new servers.

 

[Unhappy438]

????

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1305944146771935232

You mean besides the people at the back by the fire truck? Peggie boy with the fake news Biden derangement syndrome once again.

 

[konfab]

Maybe make a thread about the 2 operations.

Democrats to Investigate Forced Hysterectomy Claims in Georgia

Leading congressional Democrats reacted furiously to lightly substantiated claims that immigrants held at a detention center in Georgia are undergoing questionable hysterectomies.

www.snopes.com

The doctor is not named in the complaint, but lawyers who represent women at the jail said their clients have been taken to a local gynecologist named Dr. Mahendra Amin. Scott Grubman, a lawyer for Amin, said in a statement that he was confident the doctor would be cleared of any wrongdoing. Amin was previously accused by state and federal authorities of falsely billing Medicare and Medicaid in an investigation that led to a $520,000 settlement in 2015.

Medicare for all.

 

[greg0205]

I have read all the material on the ICE allegations. I am going to withhold judgement on this until there is an investigation. Or is that not the correct thing to do?

How you remind me about the time I posted very uncomfortable truths around trafficking of aborted tissue and was attacked by most people gasping about this issue. And how many women are lied to about their abortions (it's just a clump of cells!).

One was was labelled a conspiracy and did not really happen, and the other has drawn comparisons to Nazism.

Hypothetically, where do you suspect you'll land on ICE if the whistleblower's allegations are confirmed by the IG?

 

[greg0205]

Maybe make a thread about the 2 operations.

Democrats to Investigate Forced Hysterectomy Claims in Georgia

Leading congressional Democrats reacted furiously to lightly substantiated claims that immigrants held at a detention center in Georgia are undergoing questionable hysterectomies.

www.snopes.com

No.

 

[Kieppie]

Thought has no place amongst brother leader's followers. I can understand why you would think this dangerous

Ok so you still with your head in the sand pretending you are the one that is able to think clearly. Gotcha. Now tap your heels 3 times and you'll be in Kansas.

 

[Pegasus]

I have read all the material on the ICE allegations. I am going to withhold judgement on this until there is an investigation. Or is that not the correct thing to do?

How you remind me about the time I posted very uncomfortable truths around trafficking of aborted tissue and was attacked by most people gasping about this issue. And how many women are lied to about their abortions (it's just a clump of cells!).

One was was labelled a conspiracy and did not really happen, and the other has drawn comparisons to Nazism.

In the leftist nutters defence, they do need to deflect from the incredible progress that Trump made in the Middle east.

Some made up Nazi comparisons is the best they can do in such short notice.

 

[Pegasus]

No.

But it is causing you such distress. Surely you want some leftists to console you in a dedicated thread?

 

[Unhappy438]

I don't have a problem with abortions, if people want to murder their own children, it is their business. Just don't call it something it isn't.

Pray tell, how many funerals have you been to for miscarriages?

 

[Emjay]

But it is causing you such distress. Surely you want some leftists to console you in a dedicated thread?

I did it just for him.

 

[konfab]

Hypothetically, where do you suspect you'll land on ICE if the whistleblower's allegations are confirmed by the IG?

I don't think ICE is actually involved here.

This is a little more detailed than Snopes:
https://www.prismreports.org/articl...sterilized-detained-women-has-been-identified

According to the whistleblower in Project South’s complaint, Amin recently took out the wrong ovary on a detained woman.

“She was supposed to get her left ovary removed because it had a cyst on the left ovary; he took out the right one. She was upset. She had to go back to take out the left and she wound up with a total hysterectomy. She still wanted children—so she has to go back home now and tell her husband that she can’t bear kids,” Wooten said in the complaint, explaining that the woman wasn’t fully under anesthesia when she heard the doctor tell the nurse that he took the wrong ovary.

So you have illegal immigrants taking advantage of the free heathcare that the US provides to them, to only find out that it is completely substandard. Mice don't understand why the cheese in the trap is free.

 

[Pegasus]

I did it just for him.

I see yes.
This thread will be filled with all of Trump's successes and we don't want greg's totally unrelated issue to get lost.

 

[Kieppie]

Evergreen.

The Faux racism Evergreen & Bret Weinstein? That Evergreen?

 

[konfab]

Pray tell, how many funerals have you been to for miscarriages?

Thankfully none.

Why don't you go to a woman who has just had a miscarriage and tell them that what they lost was just a clump of cells.

 

[Kieppie]

Oh is that the Nancy that voted down a bipartisan bill out of hand?

Rank-and-file House members achieve rare bipartisan consensus in bid to press Hill leaders to cut stimulus deal | CNN Politics

A bipartisan group of House members on Tuesday formally unveiled a sweeping proposal to inject up to $2 trillion in aid to the economy amid the coronavirus pandemic, a move aimed at jump-starting talks that have devolved into bitter acrimony and finger-pointing between the White House and...

edition.cnn.com

 

[Unhappy438]

Thankfully none.

You hear about them all the time dont you?

Why don't you go to a woman who has just had a miscarriage and tell them that what they lost was just a clump of cells.

We should just name you strawfab, i dont call a fetus a clump of cells and i dont call it a child either. Society quite obviously doesn't treat it like a child (yourself included), so stop pretending that it is one.

 

[buka001]

The Khartoum resolution.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khartoum_Resolution



Now:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-september-15-2020/

If most of the Arab league actually starts doing business with Israel, it means they recognise it.

1967? That is like say Vietnam and the USA are still at war.

Basically you are ignoring everything that has happened between Israel and these two countries in the past 20 years.

We know from Wikileaks, that Israel and Bahrain have been operating on normalised diplomatic relations behind doors as early as 2005. More publicly Bahrain symbolised a warming attitude towards Israel in 2007.

2016 through to 2018 Bahrain began far more overt and normal relations, culminating with Bahrain stating in 2018 that Israel had the right to exist.

Similarly with the UAE. Relations began normalising relations through back channels in the early 2010's, when Israel patched up matters after an assassination job.

There has been joint co-operation between these two countries militaries at various stages in the mid 2010's.

Finding common ground with their joint dislike of Iran, pushed them closer together and relations have been fairly normal since 2015, with the final matter meeting official normalisation on the back of the quid pro quo for medical equipment and ceasing the annexation of more territory.

The deal is good, as it is overt, brings about more positive dialogue. It will also hold Israel to account on their intentions to annex more settlements. The deal collapses if they do. So credit is due to all participants, Donald Trump included.

I just don't think it is the monumentuous deal it is being made out to be, given the already normalised relations that were in existence. It is like a rubber stamp for some populism. Which is still OK, given the result.

 

[buka001]

So still nothing.

Have at it.

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www.haaretz.com

 

[konfab]

You hear about them all the time dont you?

So much so that my insurance covers them.

We should just name you strawfab, i dont call a fetus a clump of cells and i dont call it a child either. Society quite obviously doesn't treat it like a child (yourself included), so stop pretending that it is one.

Society outside of your progressive bubble does actually.

People wouldn't have spent millions of dollars developing 3D ultrasounds (which have zero medical use) to see the face of meaningless foetus.
My health insurance doesn't tell people to sign up for the Discovery Foetus program. They tell people to sign up for the Discovery Baby program.