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US Election 2020 - Pt 2
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Pegging
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Are all polls correct then?
Vorastra
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And yet the majority of black people in the US live in Southern states which have higher voting power than other States. You could technically argue that the majority of black people have more powerful votes than white people in the US.
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Remember where this started?
I do.
And yeah, in 2016, the polls were within the margin of error.
*Predictions* based on polls were wrong.
You understand there's a difference, right?
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Which president? President of the European Commission or President of the European Council?
Who won the popular vote when this president was elected?
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Wanna know why?
I'll tell you anyway...
Multiple polls as well as pollster ratings... specifically... to avoid manipulation by a single poll.
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Wanna know why?
I'll tell you anyway...
Multiple polls as well as pollster ratings... specifically... to avoid manipulation by a single poll.
Ok. So to summarise...
Polls that you agree with are 100% legit.
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Jesus.
Point me to where I've said *anything* like that.
The conversation we're having on this forum is completely detached from the one going on in your head.
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Speak to him again after deprogramming. You are wasting your time in his current form. It is like a boss fight where in the first phase it is immune to melee damage. But here you are swinging an axe.
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The truth about "bleach vs spray tan" is about to be revealed.
Melania Trump's former aide to release 'explosive' memoir – report
Book by Stephanie Winston Wolkoff, a former unpaid adviser to the first lady, will detail their 15-year friendship
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A former senior aide to Melania Trump who helped oversee Donald Trump’s inauguration has written an “explosive” memoir detailing her 15-year friendship with the first lady, according to reports.
Stephanie Winston Wolkoff was appointed as an unpaid adviser to the first lady shortly after Donald Trump won the 2016 election, and she played a high-profile role in helping Melania Trump transition into the White House from New York while advising her on her political portfolio.
But in February 2018, Winston Wolkoff was forced out after reports that her firm had received $26m in payments to help plan Trump’s lavish inauguration ceremony in 2017 and related events. At the time, Winston Wolkoff said the firm had “retained a total of $1.62m” that was divided among staff. She has since challenged the notion that she was dismissed and claimed that she was “thrown under the bus”.
Winston Wolkoff later cooperated with federal prosecutors in Manhattan who opened an investigation into whether Trump’s 2017 inaugural committee misspent some of the record $107m it raised from donations.
The book will be titled Melania and Me, and published by Gallery Books, an imprint of Simon & Schuster, on 1 September, Vanity Fair reported.
Melania Trump's former aide to release 'explosive' memoir – report
Book by Stephanie Winston Wolkoff, a former unpaid adviser to the first lady, will detail their 15-year friendship
Melania Trump's former aide to release 'explosive' memoir – report
Book by Stephanie Winston Wolkoff, a former unpaid adviser to the first lady, will detail their 15-year friendship
www.theguardian.com
A former senior aide to Melania Trump who helped oversee Donald Trump’s inauguration has written an “explosive” memoir detailing her 15-year friendship with the first lady, according to reports.
Stephanie Winston Wolkoff was appointed as an unpaid adviser to the first lady shortly after Donald Trump won the 2016 election, and she played a high-profile role in helping Melania Trump transition into the White House from New York while advising her on her political portfolio.
But in February 2018, Winston Wolkoff was forced out after reports that her firm had received $26m in payments to help plan Trump’s lavish inauguration ceremony in 2017 and related events. At the time, Winston Wolkoff said the firm had “retained a total of $1.62m” that was divided among staff. She has since challenged the notion that she was dismissed and claimed that she was “thrown under the bus”.
Winston Wolkoff later cooperated with federal prosecutors in Manhattan who opened an investigation into whether Trump’s 2017 inaugural committee misspent some of the record $107m it raised from donations.
The book will be titled Melania and Me, and published by Gallery Books, an imprint of Simon & Schuster, on 1 September, Vanity Fair reported.
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Some of the later polls of 2016 were. The vast of majority of polls in 2016 weren't though.
I still believe Sanders would've won if he was up against Trump in 2016.
@Pegasus has a point though, if I'm picking up what he's saying correctly. Polls are themselves used to influence polls.
You could make the argument that the myriad of polls exclusively showing Clinton winning, may have got voters to mobilise against it which resulted in Trump winning.
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Some of the later polls of 2016 were. The vast of majority of polls in 2016 weren't though.
The funny thing is how well Sanders polled against Trump.
I still believe Sanders would've won if he was up against Trump in 2016.
@Pegasus has a point though, if I'm picking up what he's saying correctly. Polls are themselves used to influence polls.
You could make the argument that the myriad of polls exclusively showing Clinton winning, may have got voters to mobilise against it which resulted in Trump winning.
Not sure I buy your, "Polls are themselves used to influence polls" and "may have got voters to mobilise against it" bits... On a national level the 2016 polls were *more* accurate than many previous polls.
Swing state polls 'tho...
Also, I think you're giving polls all the credit when things like James Comey's press conference had way more impact on the result of the election.
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A true Peggie boy poll for the glorious orange leader.
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LOL.
I still think Lou Dobbs ran the definitive fair-and-balanced poll...
Ok. So you can see that right wingers can use polls to mislead and manipulate?
We are 50% of the way there.
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*sigh*
Here are my NLT and King James bibles.
Politics News | Breaking Political News, Video & Analysis-ABC News
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Wanna know why?
I'll tell you anyway...
Multiple polls as well as pollster ratings... specifically... to avoid manipulation by a single poll.
Pegging
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Are the polls of polls accurate?
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Why stop there, are the polls of those polls polls accurate?
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