US Election 2020

[cerebus]

Ok, so what Trump is doing is good then?

Trump gives governors 3-phase plan to reopen economy

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump gave governors a road map Thursday for recovering from the economic pain of the coronavirus pandemic, laying out “a phased and deliberate approach” to restoring normal activity in places that have strong testing and are seeing a decrease in COVID-19 cases...

apnews.com

Yes the roadmap was good. Then he totally undermined it by supporting the governors who wanted to open early. Then he undermined his undermining by backing off his support after they opened up too early. He's doing great.

 

[RanzB]

Ok, so what Trump is doing is good then?

If they stick to it properly, then it could work. If he undermines it like he has done, and the governors ignore advice, then no.

 

[RanzB]

Wow. When you guys cannot even get your stories straight...

Must be weird to wrap your head around that some people don't share the same opinions, unlike Trumpets who just parrot whatever line Dear Leader occurs to him in the moment.

 

[greg0205]

Oh God...

Worst endorsement ever.

Have you ever watched her on the show she speaks at... oh never mind. I get it, you dont watch videos...

Incase you change your mind.

I agree and I can't stand Meghan either... but its Arizona and she's a McCain and she's voting for Joe, a Democrat.... and that was the point of my reply to Chris.

 

[Emjay]

Must be weird to wrap your head around that some people don't share the same opinions, unlike Trumpets who just parrot whatever line Dear Leader occurs to him in the moment.

Randhir: Trumpets cannot image people having differing opinions.
Randhir: Trumpets all say the same thing.

Stellar argument.

 

[w1z4rd]

I agree and I can't stand Meghan either... but its Arizona and she's a McCain and she's voting for Joe, a Democrat.... and that was the point of my reply to Chris.

Yeah she is known for supporting bad ideas. With Biden, its Cheney 2.0

 

[RanzB]

Randhir: Trumpets cannot image people having differing opinions.
Randhir: Trumpets all say the same thing.

Stellar argument.

Some people. As in the other side. Liberals.

It might take you a while to understand, but hopefully you'll get there.

 

[greg0205]

Yeah she is known for supporting bad ideas. With Biden, its Cheney 2.0

Who would be you choice of nominee?

 

[RanzB]

She found the cure - Streamable

Check out this video on Streamable using your phone, tablet or desktop.

streamable.com

"What do I say to the science? I say I don't believe you science, because I believe my god"

Trumpets in a nutshell. Antivaxx, anti climate change, anti progress, anti science.

 

[w1z4rd]

Who would be you choice of nominee?

Warren would be better. Bernie would be best.

Biden said, AOC and her progressive views are not the future of the Democratic Party. So I guess that that excludes me and the rest of the large Bernie/AOC support base.

If Biden wants that support base he needs to come to the party and campaign on the issues that are important to progressives. Right now he cant even read a 3 point list of issues that he is campaigning on. Its mostly just "anybody but Trump".

 

[greg0205]

She found the cure - Streamable

Check out this video on Streamable using your phone, tablet or desktop.

streamable.com

"What do I say to the science? I say I don't believe you science, because I believe my god"

Trumpets in a nutshell. Antivaxx, anti climate change, anti progress, anti science.

You forgot they want to own women's bodies too.

 

[greg0205]

Warren would be better. Bernie would be best.

Biden said, AOC and her views are not the future of the Democratic Party. So I guess that that excludes me and the rest of the large Bernie/AOC support base.

That's where we differ. He said the party isn't there yet and the primary kinda made his point.

I think Joe's going to lean into the left. I might be wrong, but that's where my head's at.

This election is about getting Donnie out of the WH and Republicans into the minority in the Senate.

2024, 2028, 2032 and on and on are for real progressive agendas. Yeah, the reality of that is tough, but we're never going to see a real third party challenge in the States, and the Democratic Party is where progressive voices and pressure can effect change.

 

[RanzB]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1238541888623443972

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1238542077731803141

 

[RanzB]

I think Joe's going to lean into the left. I might be wrong, but that's where my head's at.

Nominees usually lean more to the centre after the primary. Sanders would have been the outlier in my opinion. Maybe Warren on some things.

 

[greg0205]

Nominees usually lean more to the centre after the primary. Sanders would have been the outlier in my opinion. Maybe Warren on some things.

I mean during his term, if he wins... and the win will come from the centre.

He keeps his messaging good on climate change, guns and such, and shows how his healthcare can work, he'll drag enough of the progressives along in November.

We win the Senate in November too and he can put his foot on the gas on plenty of issues the far left really care about.

 

[w1z4rd]

That's where we differ. He said the party isn't there yet and the primary kinda made his point.

Isnt it amazing what the special interests of superpac money can buy?

As AOC, that if they lived in another country, her and Biden would not be in the same party. She represents the future for progressives. Especially those who support the issues that Bernies campaigns on.

I think Joe's going to lean into the left. I might be wrong, but that's where my head's at.

He has taken one step to the left on the student loans issue, but his snubbing of other progressive issues is going to hurt him.

This election is about getting Donnie out of the WH and Republicans into the minority in the Senate.

Hillaries strategy. Hope it works better this time.

2024, 2028, 2032 and on and on are for real progressive agendas. Yeah, the reality of that is tough, but we're never going to see a real third party challenge in the States, and the Democratic Party is where progressive voices and pressure can effect change.

Superpacs will still be there, and they will buy their way to victory again.

 

[greg0205]

Isnt it amazing what superpac money can buy?

As AOC, that if they lived in another country, her and Biden would not be in the same party. She represents the future for progressives. Especially those who support the issues that Bernies campaigns on.



He has taken one step to the left on the student loans issue, but his snubbing of other progressive issues is going to hurt him.


Hillaries strategy. Hope it works better this time.



Superpacs will still be there, and they will buy their way to victory again.

Unless, you know, you have a Democratic President and a Democratic Congress who could, say, increase the number of SC justices to thirteen, load the extra seats with young, progressive judges and overturn Citizens United.

 

[w1z4rd]

Unless, you know, you have a Democratic President and a Democratic Congress who could, say, increase the number of SC justices to thirteen, load the extra seats with young, progressive judges and overturn Citizens United.

I know young and old progressives that are doing that (going without superpacs) because they believe its the right thing to do. And it is. This is one of many reasons why we trust those progressive leaders. They stand for for what they believe in.

Unlike Biden. Who as I said earlier, is more of the same old.

 

[greg0205]

I know young and old progressives that are doing (going without superpacs) that because they believe in it. This is one of many reasons why we trust those progressive leaders. Unlike Biden. Who as I said earlier, is more of the same old.

Any and every Democratic POTUS is going to be under pressure about the SC after what we’ve seen Mitch doing.

EDIT: Missed your edit. I think Joe's far more likely to take advice and be open to change than the current guy.

 

[cerebus]

I mean during his term, if he wins... and the win will come from the centre.

He keeps his messaging good on climate change, guns and such, and shows how his healthcare can work, he'll drag enough of the progressives along in November.

We win the Senate in November too and he can put his foot on the gas on plenty of issues the far left really care about.

Honestly winning the Senate with Biden could do more good than a progressive winning and the Senate staying GOP