US Election 2020

[greg0205]

Who is calling the shots here exactly? Is it the management of the company closing down or the workers.

Trump has no right to force the management of the company to stay open, and the management of the company has no right to force their workers to work.
That goes for the workers of this company as well. If they don't want to work, fine. But they don't have the right to force the company to keep employing them.

If no-one rocks up after they all quit, the things you are talking about will be driven by market forces, you know unless the government doesn't pay people not to work .

The first sentence in Tyson's first link:

President Donald Trump signed an executive order under the Defense Production Act to compel meat processing plants to remain open amid the coronavirus pandemic.

From the second link:

"All I know is, this is crazy to me, because I can't see all these people going back into work," said Donald, who works at Tyson's Waterloo, Iowa, facility. "I don't think people are going to go back in there."

Donald asked to be referred to by his first name only. He is currently recovering after testing positive for the virus.
"I'm still trying to figure out: What is he going to do, force them to stay open? Force people to go to work?" he asked.

and...

On Tuesday, Trump signed the order after some companies, such as Tyson Foods, were considering only keeping 20% of their facilities open. The vast majority of processing plants could have shut down — which would have reduced processing capacity in the country by as much as 80%, an official familiar with the order told CNN.

Over the past several weeks, a number of major meat suppliers have announced temporary closures as workers fall ill with Covid-19. The United Food and Commercial Workers International Union estimated Tuesday that 20 meatpacking and food processing workers have died so far.

The situation has gotten so severe, company executives warned, that the US meat supply could be at risk. John Tyson, chairman of the Tyson (TSN) board, warned of limited supply if plant shortages continue.
By invoking the Defense Production Act, Trump is requiring plants to remain open with some of the most dangerous conditions during the pandemic.

Kim Reynolds, the governor of Iowa has said that folk who don't go back to work will be deemed to have voluntarily terminated their job and they won't be eligible for unemployment benefits.

Workforce update from Governor Kim Reynolds on April 24, 2020 | Iowa Workforce Development

Governor Reynolds addresses situations when workers laid off due to COVID-19 are called back to their place of employment but refuse to return. Refusing to return to work may disqualify claimants from future unemployment insurance benefits. (Video courtesy of Iowa PBS)

www.iowaworkforcedevelopment.gov

How do you think this is going to play out?

 

[greg0205]

Bow to Obama Messiah!

Did you lose you place in the throne-sniffing queue just to post that for me?

 

[SoldierMan]

Did you lose you place in the throne-sniffing queue just to post that for me?

 

[greg0205]

Oops.

 

[Temujin]

Spoiler: TRIGGER WARNING

 

[Emjay]

It looks like he's reading?

Yes, Sleepy Joe is reading something that is not the prompter.

 

[greg0205]

Not.Parody.

COVID-19, WORLD vs THE UNSEEN ENEMY, Everyday Heroes, President Donald J. Trump, Vice President Michael R. Pence, Secretary S. Mnuchin, Drs. Jerome Adams, Deborah Birx, Anthony Fauci, Historic Moments in History Series -NEARLY SOLD OUT

COVID-19 White House Task Force, Commemorative Silver Coin. Title: WE FOUGHT THE UNSEEN ENEMY, celebrates Everyday Heroes, President Donald J, Trump, Vice President Michael R. Pence, Secretary S. Mnuuchin, Dr. Jerome Adams, Dr. Deborah Birx, Dr. Anthony Fauci, WHO, CDC.

www.whitehousegiftshop.com

Remember, they're $25,00 off and shipping is free.

 

[TysonRoux]

Not.Parody.

COVID-19, WORLD vs THE UNSEEN ENEMY, Everyday Heroes, President Donald J. Trump, Vice President Michael R. Pence, Secretary S. Mnuchin, Drs. Jerome Adams, Deborah Birx, Anthony Fauci, Historic Moments in History Series -NEARLY SOLD OUT

COVID-19 White House Task Force, Commemorative Silver Coin. Title: WE FOUGHT THE UNSEEN ENEMY, celebrates Everyday Heroes, President Donald J, Trump, Vice President Michael R. Pence, Secretary S. Mnuuchin, Dr. Jerome Adams, Dr. Deborah Birx, Dr. Anthony Fauci, WHO, CDC.

www.whitehousegiftshop.com

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Remember, they're $25,00 off and shipping is free.

Discounted price of $100 for a reminder of how badly the Orange Dotard and his Boot Licker bungled the COVID-19 pandemic.

 

[greg0205]

Discounted price of $100 for a reminder of how badly the Orange Dotard and his Boot Licker bungled the COVID-19 pandemic.

If you can knock 20% off the economy, you can knock 20% off a coin.

 

[Techne]

Keep bitching about boomer fckups running for president while the financial system shoves an ever bigger shaft up your....

 

[TysonRoux]

 

[OrbitalDawn]

Today I learned that to want people to follow the legal immigration process is xenophobic. Who knew?

Yes, we all know how Trump feels about wanting people to follow the legal immigration process.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/5-questions-about-president-trumps-use-of-undocumented-workers/2019/12/04/29439928-16a2-11ea-a659-7d69641c6ff7_story.html

Remind me where the ICE raids are for the illegal Irish migrants? Or was the months-long fearmongering campaign about South Korean illegal immigrants?

Remarkable coincidence that it's usually the brown people from down south who are deemed worthy of that treatment.

It looks like he's reading?

BDS flaring up again.

I can actually tell you pretty easily that if a core part of Obamacare had been eliminating Medicare and Medicaid and fully privatising the entire system like the Netherlands does, it wouldn't be the worst way to get what everyone seems to want.

...what?

The Dutch system is what you called communism previously, and is not remotely 'entirely privatised' at all.

Who is calling the shots here exactly? Is it the management of the company closing down or the workers.

Trump has no right to force the management of the company to stay open, and the management of the company has no right to force their workers to work.
That goes for the workers of this company as well. If they don't want to work, fine. But they don't have the right to force the company to keep employing them.

If no-one rocks up after they all quit, the things you are talking about will be driven by market forces, you know unless the government doesn't pay people not to work .

Uh-huh...

Trump orders meat-processing plants to continue operating amid pandemic

President signed executive order meant to soften blow of a chicken and pork shortage among other meat on US supermarket shelves

www.theguardian.com

Good thing Mitch McConnell is laser-focused on shielding companies from liability if their workers get sick or die. Essentially wanting to force people to choose between their (and their family's) health or their jobs.

'No Consequences for Negligence That Kills': McConnell Wants Corporate Immunity From Covid-19 Lawsuits

"This is one of the most appalling things I've heard in the context of this crisis."

www.commondreams.org

 

[TysonRoux]

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, where's the Orange Dotard's rodeo clown Rudy when he needs him.

Trump erupts at campaign chief as reelection stress mounts

Fuming from criticisms of his Covid-19 response, Trump berated Brad Parscale for a recent spate of poor poll numbers. At one point the President threatened to sue.

As he huddled with advisers on Friday evening, President Donald Trump was still fuming over his sliding poll numbers and the onslaught of criticism he was facing for suggesting a day earlier that ingesting disinfectant might prove effective against coronavirus.

Within moments, the President was shouting -- not at the aides in the room, but into the phone -- at his campaign manager Brad Parscale, three people familiar with the matter told CNN. Shifting the blame away from himself, Trump berated Parscale for a recent spate of damaging poll numbers, even at one point threatening to sue Parscale. It's not clear how serious the President's threat of a lawsuit was.

The White House did not immediately respond to a CNN request for comment and the Trump campaign declined to comment.

Faced with an increasingly uphill battle for reelection and aides trying to steer him in new, sometimes conflicting directions, Trump has grown increasingly unnerved in the last week about his reelection prospects. Lashing out at Parscale was just the most recent manifestation of that anxiety.
"He's p*ssed because he knows he messed up in those briefings," one Republican close to the White House said of Trump lashing out.

 

[OrbitalDawn]

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The debate could be even more interesting than the previous one!

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1156747785292648454

 

[TysonRoux]

Cuomo sticks it to Turtle McConnell

Cuomo praises Kentucky governor for standing up to McConnell on bankruptcy for states

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) praised Kentucky Gov. Andrew Beshear (D) on Monday for pushing back against Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell’s (R-Ky.) call for states to be given the option to file for bankruptcy.

thehill.com

Cuomo briefing: McConnell should learn from ‘beautiful’ Americans, testing update

www.msn.com

 

[OrbitalDawn]

Jared Kusher on Fox and Friends: “We have achieved all the different milestones that are needed. So, the government, federal government rose to the challenge and this is a great success story and I think that that’s really what needs to be told.”

Hahahahahaha.

 

[TysonRoux]

The Orange Dotard's rodeo clown comes up with a classic.

Rudy Giuliani may have said the dumbest thing yet uttered about the coronavirus

Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani was on Laura Ingraham's show on Fox News Thursday night when the subject turned to the coronavirus -- and attempts in New York to develop a contact tracing system to be able to monitor future outbreaks.

That's when this exchange happened:
Ingraham: Michael Bloomberg is gonna handle the tracing, army of tracers in NY we learned today from [New York Gov. Andrew] Cuomo.

Giuliani: That's totally ridiculous.

Ingraham: The army of tracers.

Giuliani: Then we should trace everybody for cancer.

Ingraham: Yeah, army of tracers.

Giuliani: We should trace everybody for cancer, and heart disease. And obesity. I mean, a lot of things kill you more than Covid-19. So, we should be traced for all those things. I mean life possesses a certain degree of risk.
Ah ha ha ha ha ... wait, what????

Here's the thing, Mr. Mayor: Those diseases are not at all the same. Cancer, obesity and heart disease are not contagious. Coronavirus is. Which is why contact tracing is a strategy to combat coronavirus and not, say, obesity.

 

[cerebus]

President dealmaker strikes again

After One Tweet To President Trump, This Man Got $69 Million From New York For Ventilators

The Silicon Valley engineer, who had no background in medical supplies but was recommended by the White House, never delivered the ventilators.

www.buzzfeednews.com

After One Tweet To President Trump, This Man Got $69 Million From New York For Ventilators

The Silicon Valley engineer, who had no background in medical supplies but was recommended by the White House, never delivered the ventilators.

President Donald Trump posted on Twitter to urge Ford and General Motors to “START MAKING VENTILATORS, NOW!”

One of the thousands of replies that the tweet attracted struck an equally urgent tone: “We can supply ICU Ventilators, invasive and noninvasive. Have someone call me URGENT.”

But three days later, New York state paid Oren-Pines $69.1 million. The payment was for 1,450 ventilators — at an astonishing $47,656 per ventilator, at least triple the standard retail price of high-end models.

Not a single ventilator ever arrived.

 

[OrbitalDawn]

Hahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahah.

Firm has been beset by upset Trumpets, of course, so they posted this for reflection:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1253677299779674113

 

[OrbitalDawn]

GOP senator gives activists grim 2020 assessment amid fears over holding Senate

Sen. David Perdue, a Georgia Republican up for reelection and a close Trump confidant, issued a blunt warning to GOP activists during an off-the-record conference call this week: Democrats are in position to turn his state blue and take the Senate.

edition.cnn.com

Sen. David Perdue, a Georgia Republican up for reelection and a close Trump confidant, issued a blunt warning to GOP activists during an off-the-record conference call this week: Democrats are in position to turn his state blue and take the Senate.

"Here's the reality: The state of Georgia is in play," Perdue said Monday, according to an audio recording of a call with "Women for Trump" obtained by CNN. "The Democrats have made it that way."

The stark warning from a GOP senator -- who is not considered among the most vulnerable Republicans this election cycle -- illustrates the fear among Republicans that Democrats' chances of taking back the Senate continue to grow.