US Election 2020

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Temujin said:
Meh, comes with having money... you need an army of lawyers for all the sexual assault claims against you /shrug
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Yeah, but all the ones against Trump are 100% true according to our Bernie fans here.
So these must also be true. I haven't actually read them all, but I know they are true.
 
Pegasus said:
Yeah, but all the ones against Trump are 100% true according to our Bernie fans here.
So these must also be true. I haven't actually read them all, but I know they are true.
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Indeed
 
Pegasus said:
Wow!
Turns out Bloomberg is quite the sex pest.
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Racist sex pest.
Yes, his past is coming back to bite him in the asss - without those bad character traits I still wouldn't consider him presidential material.
The Dem's list of candidates does not impress me, and he would be real low on the list - if the Rep's came up with a good candidate and I was voting, I'd consider voting for them.

Would you consider Bloomberg or Trump the bigger sex pest, or is it beyond you to see any fault with Trump?
 
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OrbitalDawn said:
www.newsweek.com

Fox Host Cuts Off Critique of Trump's Relationships In Buttigieg Discussion

"You see a loving, monogamous couple like Pete Buttigieg and Chasten, his husband, up there showing what is possible," Jessica Tarlov said.
www.newsweek.com www.newsweek.com
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LOL

"And then they're torn down by Rush Limbaugh, who's been married four times I think," she said, before pointing out the president's past infidelity.

"We have Donald Trump, three times married, cheated on all of those wives," she said. But anchor Smith then cut in, objecting to discussing the personal life of the president—despite the show's discussion of the relationship of a Democratic presidential candidate.

"Let's not bring in personal relationships," Smith interjected. She then turned to read Limbaugh's original comments, which were about Buttigieg's personal relationship.
 
OrbitalDawn said:
Surely you don't mean any changes to policy or legislation? That would be insanely impractical.
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Switzerland disagrees.

Swiss citizens vote regularly on any kind of issue on every political level, such as financial approvals of a school house or the building of a new street, or the change of the policy regarding sexual work, or on constitutional changes, or on the foreign policy of Switzerland, four times a year.[19] Between January 1995 and June 2005, Swiss citizens voted 31 times, on 103 federal questions besides many more cantonal and municipal questions.[20]During the same period, French citizens participated in only two referendums.[17]
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I'm a proponent of participatory democracy, and that is why I am a proponent of decentralisation/federalism as well. The latter breaks the system down further so it makes direct democracy more practical.

Just because I voted for you 3-years ago doesn't mean you have the green light to go ahead and do what you want now. At all times the electorate should be able to check the government. The electorate should even be allowed to vote on recalling politicians and their own referendums. Pull Jacob Zuma stunts and the people should be able to step in and oust you, not be at the mercy of a government protecting a questionable politician. If the electorate feels that the ruling government has lost the plot and is no longer acting in the best interests of the country, they should be allowed to call for a referendum demanding an early election.

Of course this works better with a well developed and homogeneous society (which also influences my opinions on immigration and assimilation as well) but that is how I feel democracies should function in an ideal world. But seeing as we don't live in one I still feel that the electorate should have way more power and influence than they do in a representative system.
 
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TysonRoux said:
Racist sex pest.
Yes, his past is coming back to bite him in the asss - without those bad character traits I still wouldn't consider him presidential material.
The Dem's list of candidates does not impress me, and he would be real low on the list - if the Rep's came up with a good candidate and I was voting, I'd consider voting for them.

Would you consider Bloomberg or Trump the bigger sex pest, or is it beyond you to see any fault with Trump?
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Don't get why Dems are even entertaining the notion of an American Oligarch to be the top of their ticket. Anyone that can beat Trump notion, is not going to win them this election. Dems win, when their candidate energises their base .... generally they are young and not really part of the swamp /furniture... only one that comes close to energising is old Bern...
 
Tman* said:
Obama.exe still running strong!!!
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He's 100% correct. Trump's economy is clearly benefiting from the upward streak that began under Obama. Like it or not, Obama was the best thing that could have happened to the US economy after GW Bush eviscerated it for 8 years, culminating in a global market crash.
 
Quite a worrying development recently was Trumps judicial over reach in Roger Stones case.

Barr is merely just an extension of Trumps corrupt aims. He is captured.

The judiciary are having none of it.


amp.usatoday.com

Federal judges' association calls emergency meeting after DOJ intervenes in case of Trump ally Roger Stone

An association of federal judges has called an emergency meeting after Attorney General William Barr intervened in the case of Trump ally Roger Stone.
amp.usatoday.com

Anational association of federal judges has called an emergency meeting Tuesday to address growing concerns about the intervention of Justice Department officials and President Donald Trump in politically sensitive cases, the group’s president said Monday.
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cerebus said:
He's 100% correct. Trump's economy is clearly benefiting from the upward streak that began under Obama. Like it or not, Obama was the best thing that could have happened to the US economy after GW Bush eviscerated it for 8 years, culminating in a global market crash.
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*gasp* There was job creation at end of a recession that cost millions of jobs...
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#thanksobama you got the US unemployment almost back to where is was pre-recession :rolleyes:
 
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