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rietrot said:
Dude. Do you not support the lockdowns?
The lockdowns, shutting down many businesses is the economy.
Lifties were screeching that lives are more important than the economy and supported lockdowns.
Now that the economy is looking shít you literally want to blame Trump, who's been saying open up businesses.

Explain to my how I have this wrong and how you aren't a complete hypocrite.
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Do I blame Trump for the entire impact on the economy? No
Do I blame Trump for the portion of the impact on the economy that can be attributed to his terrible management of the crises. Yes. Yes I do.

Or are you really, like for real going to say with a straight face that the federal administration has done the bestest job in the whole world?

Here let me give you some encouragement and solidarity?
Do I think that Cuomo did a good job in New York?
Fsck no he didn't, look at all the numbers. They were late to act and entirely underprepared as a state. I also blame him for not doing enough to protect nursing homes.

See it's not hard. You give it a try some time. You will feel liberated, I promise.
 
AlmightyBender said:
Do I blame Trump for the entire impact on the economy? No
Do I blame Trump for the portion of the impact on the economy that can be attributed to his terrible management of the crises. Yes. Yes I do.
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Exactly what portion is Trump responsible for?
 
rietrot said:
Well from your point of view as a campaign socialist this might be true, but it is only true from your very narrow point of view.

I mean sure Trump is to blame for the nation wide protest in all the Democrat cities.
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Who said anything about blame? I'm asking what he should get credit for. Americans are noticeably worse off now than they were three years ago, by just about any measure you can think of. He simply has no case for re-election.
 
rietrot said:
Exactly what portion is Trump responsible for?
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I asked you first:
AlmightyBender said:
Or are you really, like for real going to say with a straight face that the federal administration has done the bestest job in the whole world?
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If your answer to that question is yes, then logically you will not apportion any blame to anything to Trump. However if your answer is no, then logically things wouldn't be as bad if the administration had done a better job?

Obviously I can't put a dollar or a stat against the quantity but it is pretty logical.
 
AlmightyBender said:
I asked you first:

If your answer to that question is yes, then logically you will not apportion any blame to anything to Trump. However if your answer is no, then logically things wouldn't be as bad if the administration had done a better job?

Obviously I can't put a dollar or a stat against the quantity but it is pretty logical.
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Yes they did a good enough job. They don't have full control over the Democrat sanctuary cities and bringing the Dem cities under control would require going too authoritarian.

Your turn. What did Trump do wrong?
 
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Chris_the_Brit said:
Their per capita death is still far below that of the worst European countries (Belgium, UK, Italy , Spain) and no-one with half a brain is holding Trump mostly responsible for either the deaths or the economic chaos especially since ALL countries are experiencing economic hardship. It's also well appreciated that it's the leftists who were the strongest supporters of the lockdown which is correlated to the degree economic pain. On top of all that, governors themselves have lots of power and well what are Trump supporters seeing? The worst affected states are deep blue states....
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Fake news.
I strongly disagree. Someone with around half a brain is posting pics of stadiums and blaming Trump.
I'm not going to mention names, so you will have to take me on my word.
 
AlmightyBender said:
Do I blame Trump for the entire impact on the economy? No
Do I blame Trump for the portion of the impact on the economy that can be attributed to his terrible management of the crises. Yes. Yes I do.

Or are you really, like for real going to say with a straight face that the federal administration has done the bestest job in the whole world?

Here let me give you some encouragement and solidarity?
Do I think that Cuomo did a good job in New York?
Fsck no he didn't, look at all the numbers. They were late to act and entirely underprepared as a state. I also blame him for not doing enough to protect nursing homes.

See it's not hard. You give it a try some time. You will feel liberated, I promise.
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Careful bud. You're moving to the centre very quickly.
 
Pegasus said:
Careful bud. You're moving to the centre very quickly.
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Unlike Trumpists we have the ability to be critical of our leaders.

I'll throw you a bone, give me a few Democrats or any progressives that you like and I'll criticize them for you. It will be fun. I encourage you to give it a try also.
 
AlmightyBender said:
Unlike Trumpists we have the ability to be critical of our leaders.

I'll throw you a bone, give me a few Democrats or any progressives that you like and I'll criticize them for you. It will be fun. I encourage you to give it a try also.
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Is Trumpist the word you use to describe people who start businesses and create jobs?
 
rietrot said:
Yes they did a good enough job. They don't have full control over the Democrat sanctuary cities and bringing the Dem cities under control would require going too authoritarian.

Your turn. What did Trump do wrong?
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Lol I thought so. And done with a straight face. Brilliant. By that standard of "good enough" I'm sure you think that Ramaphosa and co are doing an off the charts brilliant job considering our per capita numbers compared to USA and Europe? Don't answer that. It is rhetorical to illustrate the absurdity of your view.

Anyway, at the minimum:
  • the administration could have coordinated allocation of scarce resources and PPE according to the data of demand over time among the states
  • Trump could have given the message to take the infectiousness of the virus more seriously so that people and businesses could have gotten back online sooner with less casualties armed with facts. This could have better balanced locking down and opening up and brought timelines quicker and numbers down.
  • The federal administration could have procured PPE and other equipment on states behalf and for vastly cheaper due to it's relative collective bargaining vs desperate bidding between states
  • Trump could not have gutted the pandemic response team during his administration which would have resulted in a quicker response
 
AlmightyBender said:
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Pull the other one bud. Where exactly is all the wealth and employment concentrated in the USA? I'll give you a hint... blue states
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It got burnt and looted by leftists.
 
greg0205 said:
106 195 folk are dead.
40 800 000 folk are unemployed.
Protests across the country and around the world.

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MAGA!
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Spec ops like using their night vision goggles and sniper scopes to take out Tangos.
Helps when the lights are out.
 
Wherein a sitting US Senator suggests the 101st Airborne, the 10th Mountain, the 82nd Airborne, the 1st Cavalry and the 3rd Infantry shoot Americans exercising their 1st Amendment rights... Indeed the Senator goes on to say "no quarter", advocating the execution of those Americans, even if they surrendered.

The 1st Amendment, the 5th Amendment, the 6th Amendment, the 8th Amendment, the 14th Amendment, US law and international law could not be reached for comment.

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greg0205 said:
Wherein a sitting US Senator suggests the 101st Airborne, the 10th Mountain, the 82nd Airborne, the 1st Cavalry and the 3rd Infantry shoot Americans exercising their 1st Amendment rights... Indeed the Senator goes on to say "no quarter", advocating the execution of those Americans, even if they surrendered.

The 1st Amendment, the 5th Amendment, the 6th Amendment, the 8th Amendment, the 14th Amendment, US law and international law could not be reached for comment.

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When they talk about "decent" people what they mean is we know the behaviour on the right is awful and indecent and we need to prove that you're no better than us
 
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