US politics general thread

[cerebus]

The funny thing is that Hillary got her due process and then some.

She did? When?

 

[Pitbull]

Pretty simple, really. The people who were wailing about 'muh due process' actually don't care about it at all, and are quite happy when it's discarded, as long as it's targeted at people they don't like. cerebus has been fighting a valiant fight to try and talk about facts, but at some point you end up hitting a wall of bad-faith, feelings-based motivated reasoning from people who are more interested in 'owning the libs' than having substantive discussions.

Sorry, what due process is not being followed here when it comes to seeking asylum/refugee status? You clutching, and very badly...

 

[Pitbull]

Mike Pence's National Anthem Stunt Cost More Than $300,000



Love to be a fiscal conservative.

Wait, so the costs were for him attending? He walked out due to the protest and now all of a sudden the costs has something to do with him walking out? Geesus

Wiki

Reason is an American libertarian monthly magazine published by the Reason Foundation.[1] The magazine has a circulation of around 50,000[2] and was named one of the 50 best magazines in 2003 and 2004 by the Chicago Tribune.

That explains it

 

[Emjay]

She did? When?

An IG investigation
FBI investigation
Senate Committee hearings

You mean you want MORE due process?

 

[Cray]

Wait, so the costs were for him attending? He walked out due to the protest and now all of a sudden the costs has something to do with him walking out? Geesus

No, the costs are associated with him attending the game, his walking out before the game started pretty much pissed that money on the wall. If you are going to incur a cost to taxpayers, the very least you should do is to make sure the money isn't wasted.

 

[cerebus]

Sorry, what due process is not being followed here when it comes to seeking asylum/refugee status? You clutching, and very badly...

Lol you. Take it up with these guys:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powe...a45d36-77bd-11e8-93cc-6d3beccdd7a3_story.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/24/us/politics/trump-immigration-judges-due-process.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/25/us/politics/due-process-undocumented-immigrants.html
http://time.com/5321318/donald-trump-immigration-due-process/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...-to-deprive-undocumented-migrants-due-process
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...egal-process-immigrants-not-way-go/729926002/
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/25/trump-due-process-immigrants-669334
https://www.businessinsider.com/tru...-immigrants-no-judges-court-cases-2018-6?IR=T
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2018/06...cess-rights/P34bfgGaSaYEYP43o0cQLN/story.html

 

[cerebus]

An IG investigation
FBI investigation
Senate Committee hearings

You mean you want MORE due process?

All that exoneration, and he's still calling for her to be locked up? Seems like he doesn't care much about evidence at all.

 

[Emjay]

All that exoneration, and he's still calling for her to be locked up? Seems like he doesn't care much about evidence at all.

She did break the law. Whether it is jail worthy is open to interpretation.

 

[Pitbull]

No, the costs are associated with him attending the game, his walking out before the game started pretty much pissed that money on the wall. If you are going to incur a cost to taxpayers, the very least you should do is to make sure the money isn't wasted.

So the costs would have been there whether he walked out or not right?

The issue is not the money, it's because he walked out on a Libtard protest... and then have a heading reading: "Mike Pence's National Anthem Stunt Cost More Than $300,000"

More dishonesty and deception by the libtards, and this by a magazine with an astounding 50 000 readers Geesus, Huisgenoot has more readers

 

[Pitbull]

Lol you. Take it up with these guys:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powe...a45d36-77bd-11e8-93cc-6d3beccdd7a3_story.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/24/us/politics/trump-immigration-judges-due-process.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/25/us/politics/due-process-undocumented-immigrants.html
http://time.com/5321318/donald-trump-immigration-due-process/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...-to-deprive-undocumented-migrants-due-process
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...egal-process-immigrants-not-way-go/729926002/
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/25/trump-due-process-immigrants-669334
https://www.businessinsider.com/tru...-immigrants-no-judges-court-cases-2018-6?IR=T
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2018/06...cess-rights/P34bfgGaSaYEYP43o0cQLN/story.html

You already got shown up to be nothing but dishonest and outright lying yesterday. Not even going to bother with these links, probably just more of you lacking comprehension and/or outright lying.

Enforcing current laws according to you and other like you is now "not due process"

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

That explains it

Worse, it is HuffPo. Reason was just regurgitating a HuffPo article there. Reason tends to be a bit more level headed than that, but then they do stupid shyte like this ... tsk tsk

 

[Aquila ka Hecate]

You already got shown up to be nothing but dishonest and outright lying yesterday. Not even going to bother with these links, probably just more of you lacking comprehension and/or outright lying.

Enforcing current laws according to you and other like you is now "not due process"

I'm sorry, but that looks a lot like you sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling "I can't hear you".

 

[Cray]

So the costs would have been there whether he walked out or not right?

You could say that about any wasted government expenditure, the fact was that he incurred the expense and then stormed out in a fit of pique, when the US tax payer is paying for you to attend an even you should be above partisan political politics.

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

make sure the money isn't wasted.

Damn right, by not standing there while libtards are disrespecting the flag of the country who's taxpayers payed for you to be there.

 

[Tman*]

 

[Cray]

Damn right, by not standing there while libtards are disrespecting the flag of the country who's taxpayers payed for you to be there.

How is kneeling showing disrespect...?

 

[Techne]

Lol you. Take it up with these guys:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powe...a45d36-77bd-11e8-93cc-6d3beccdd7a3_story.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/24/us/politics/trump-immigration-judges-due-process.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/25/us/politics/due-process-undocumented-immigrants.html
http://time.com/5321318/donald-trump-immigration-due-process/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...-to-deprive-undocumented-migrants-due-process
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...egal-process-immigrants-not-way-go/729926002/
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/25/trump-due-process-immigrants-669334
https://www.businessinsider.com/tru...-immigrants-no-judges-court-cases-2018-6?IR=T
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2018/06...cess-rights/P34bfgGaSaYEYP43o0cQLN/story.html

Lol, when so many MSM outlets say the same thing it is just about guaranteed to be a pile of BS.

 

[Cray]

You already got shown up to be nothing but dishonest and outright lying yesterday. Not even going to bother with these links, probably just more of you lacking comprehension and/or outright lying.

You don't get to bitch about lying and dishonesty if you are simply going to dismiss sources as dishonest without reading them. Are you here to have a real discussion or to simply crow about "libtards"?

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

you should be above partisan political politics.

Neither the flag nor anthem is "partisan". Disrespecting people who disrespect your flag and anthem is therefor also not partisan.

If anything you should be laying blame at the feet of the retards who brought the anthem into it in the first place in order to get their warped political views across ...

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

How is kneeling showing disrespect...?

When you are expected to stand at attention / heart on hand anything other than that is disrespectful.