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[yebocan]

President Trump fires Rex Tillerson: Live updates



https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/13/politics/trump-tillerson-latest/index.html

 

[cerebus]

Frankly at this point it benefits me more to stick around just to piss you off. Do you really want to tempt me?

Give us a break xarog, just end the charade that anything is going to change post-6/4. You made the cardinal mistake of not realizing that LARPers like Q always predict that something is about to happen, and never commit to a date when it's going to happen. He is quite happy to string you along for years like this but now you had to go and draw a line in the sand. You can't handle the cognitive dissonance of being shown to be wrong, plus you're a fundamentally dishonest person, so you'll just end up finding a rationale to stay on the forum until one of the mods does their jobs and kicks you off like the troll you are.

 

[Xarog]

Give us a break xarog, just end the charade that anything is going to change post-6/4. You made the cardinal mistake of not realizing that LARPers like Q always predict that something is about to happen, and never commit to a date when it's going to happen.

Do you have an explanation for the 18 000+ sealed indictments across the country? Do you have an explanation for the overwhelming number of resignations of prominent CEOs over the last few months? Etcetera etcetera. Until these publicly verifiable facts have some sort of alternative explanation, I'm going with the only one that there is.

He is quite happy to string you along for years like this but now you had to go and draw a line in the sand. You can't handle the cognitive dissonance of being shown to be wrong, plus you're a fundamentally dishonest person, so you'll just end up finding a rationale to stay on the forum until one of the mods does their jobs and kicks you off like the troll you are.

Last I checked, between the two of us, I was the only one who could admit being wrong about something. And I'm less dishonest than you are, regardless of whether or not I stick with the bet.

 

[Unhappy438]

Give us a break xarog, just end the charade that anything is going to change post-6/4. You made the cardinal mistake of not realizing that LARPers like Q always predict that something is about to happen, and never commit to a date when it's going to happen. He is quite happy to string you along for years like this but now you had to go and draw a line in the sand. You can't handle the cognitive dissonance of being shown to be wrong, plus you're a fundamentally dishonest person, so you'll just end up finding a rationale to stay on the forum until one of the mods does their jobs and kicks you off like the troll you are.

Amen

 

[Garson007]

Pompeo means Iran is in the cross-hairs.

 

[buka001]

It shows how deep you have fallen for this fairy tale.

Have you skeptically considered for one moment whether the rate of CEO resignations is above any normal rate? Or is it because you saw a couple resignations, coupled with Qanons goading of your cognitive dissonance you believe that there is actually something there, that isn't?

And the 18000 sealed indictments? Seems like that is not verified. Some redditor did some basic fact checking and did not find the 18000 indictments. Found the number to be relatively normal. https://www.reddit.com/r/CBTS_Strea...unked/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=comment_list

 

[C4Cat]

Wow, the new CIA director is a piece of work:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gina_Haspel

Haspel ran a "black site" CIA prison located in Thailand in 2002.[5][6] The site was codenamed "Cat’s Eye" and held suspected al Qaeda members Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri and Abu Zubaydah for a time. The Senate Intelligence Committee report on CIA torture specifies that during their detention at the site they were waterboarded and interrogated using no longer authorized methods.[7][8] Declassified CIA cables specify that Zubaydah was waterboarded 83 times in a month, was sleep deprived, kept in a "large box", had his head slammed against a wall and he lost his left eye. Zubaydah was deemed, by the CIA interrogators, to not be in possession of any useful intelligence (Interrogation of Abu Zubaydah).[9]

Haspel later was the chief of staff to Jose Rodriguez, who headed the CIA's Counterterrorism Center. In his memoir, Rodriguez wrote that Haspel had "drafted a cable" in 2005 ordering the destruction of dozens of videotapes made at the black site in Thailand.[8]

On February 2, 2017, President Donald Trump appointed Haspel deputy director of the CIA. On February 8, 2017, several members of the Senate intelligence committee urged Trump to reconsider his appointment of Haspel as Deputy Director.[12] Senator Sheldon Whitehouse quoted colleagues Ron Wyden and Martin Heinrich who were on the committee:

I am especially concerned by reports that this individual was involved in the unauthorized destruction of CIA interrogation videotapes, which documented the CIA’s use of torture against two CIA detainees. My colleagues Senators Wyden and Heinrich have stated that classified information details why the newly appointed Deputy Director is 'unsuitable' for the position and have requested that this information be declassified. I join their request.

On June 7, 2017, the European Center for Constitutional and Human Rights called on the Public Prosecutor General of Germany to issue an arrest warrant against Haspel over claims she oversaw the torture of terrorism suspects. The complaint against her is centered on the case of Saudi national Abu Zubaydah.[16][17][18]

 

[Xarog]

It shows how deep you have fallen for this fairy tale.

Have you skeptically considered for one moment whether the rate of CEO resignations is above any normal rate? Or is it because you saw a couple resignations, coupled with Qanons goading of your cognitive dissonance you believe that there is actually something there, that isn't?

Sure. I said etcetera etcetera. That includes other things like the reports that came out from the NYPD when Huma Abedin's laptop was found. It includes the mysterious silence over the criminal case against that Awan guy who was found to have all sorts of illicit access to DNC data. It includes the fact that Kim Dotcom claims to have personal knowledge that Seth Rich was the leaker of the DNC files. And what has been learnt so far of the Uranium One scandal. All of the publicly verifiable facts point to a very dark tale brewing beneath the surface with respect to the 2016 elections. One that is dark enough to set off a constitutional crisis.

And the 18000 sealed indictments? Seems like that is not verified. Some redditor did some basic fact checking and did not find the 18000 indictments. Found the number to be relatively normal. https://www.reddit.com/r/CBTS_Strea...unked/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=comment_list

You didn't bother to read the comments. His method of tabulating the numbers was torn to shreds. Why should I take this seriously?

 

[buka001]

Sure. I said etcetera etcetera. That includes other things like the reports that came out from the NYPD when Huma Abedin's laptop was found. It includes the mysterious silence over the criminal case against that Awan guy who was found to have all sorts of illicit access to DNC data. It includes the fact that Kim Dotcom claims to have personal knowledge that Seth Rich was the leaker of the DNC files. And what has been learnt so far of the Uranium One scandal. All of the publicly verifiable facts point to a very dark tale brewing beneath the surface with respect to the 2016 elections. One that is dark enough to set off a constitutional crisis.


You didn't bother to read the comments. His method of tabulating the numbers was torn to shreds. Why should I take this seriously?

I read the comments. Nothing definitively was provided that disproved his claim.

They attacked him.

 

[Xarog]

I read the comments. Nothing definitively was provided that disproved his claim.

They attacked him.

Lol? They pointed out where he didn't in fact look, and where they had looked.

Sure, but he didn't find what he was looking for, so that means it doesn't exist. :crylaugh: How do I know Mueller won't find any dirt on Trump? Cuz I used Google and my search results didn't turn up anything useful, ergo it doesn't exist! :crylaugh:

So tell me, if the indictment is listed as sealed vs. sealed, and you only search for USA vs. sealed, are you going to find what you're looking for?

Edit: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1KPh2ASFggwF1XVnVpDB3mtwvwlH71om6

Top voted post gives a direct link to the method that you use to verify the 18k sealed indictments. Have fun.

 

[buka001]

Lol Trump.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/936688444046266368?s=19

 

[buka001]

Lol? They pointed out where he didn't in fact look, and where they had looked.

Sure, but he didn't find what he was looking for, so that means it doesn't exist. :crylaugh: How do I know Mueller won't find any dirt on Trump? Cuz I used Google and my search results didn't turn up anything useful, ergo it doesn't exist! :crylaugh:

So tell me, if the indictment is listed as sealed vs. sealed, and you only search for USA vs. sealed, are you going to find what you're looking for?

They said that, without demonstrating any factual evidence to suggest that a sealed vs sealed search would provide the numbers you think exist.

 

[Xarog]

They said that, without demonstrating any factual evidence to suggest that a sealed vs sealed search would provide the numbers you think exist.

Explain to me what is supposed to serve as "factual evidence" if you think one can't go to the pacer.gov website yourself to verify the results.

 

[buka001]

Explain to me what is supposed to serve as "factual evidence" if you think one can't go to the pacer.gov website yourself to verify the results.

The fact that sealed vs sealed is any different to what is normal.

This guy has shown that the usa vs sealed is normal. In some cases its less now than in previous years.

He deminstrated that the 2009 reference year has flawed data.

 

[Xarog]

The fact that sealed vs sealed is any different to what is normal.

This guy has shown that the usa vs sealed is normal. In some cases its less now than in previous years.

He deminstrated that the 2009 reference year has flawed data.

Edit: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1KPh2ASFggwF1XVnVpDB3mtwvwlH71om6

Top voted post gives a direct link to the method that you use to verify the 18k sealed indictments. Have fun.

You have everything you need to check for yourself. Follow the method, tell me when you get tired of counting.

 

[The_Assimilator]

So...

> UK directly accuses Russia of poisoning ex-spy with nerve agent
> White House refuses to directly accuse Russia of the same
> Rex Tillerson directly accuses Russia of the same
> Tillerson is fired the very next day, while in the middle of a diplomatic mission to Africa, and finds this out from Trump's Twitter
> White House claims Tillerson was informed of his termination on Friday
> Goldstein, aide to Tillerson, contradicts White House's claims re Tillerson firing date, is also fired

You really cannot make this circus or its convenient timing up.

 

[cerebus]

Wow, the new CIA director is a piece of work:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gina_Haspel

So is the new Secretary of State

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...-state-department_us_5aa7e180e4b03c9edfaffc0a

In his six years as a Republican congressman from Kansas, Pompeo voted so routinely against environmental policies that he received a 4 percent lifetime score on the League of Conservation Voters’ ranking. In 2011, he unsuccessfully pushed to end energy subsidies in a move Ebell said was meant to target tax credits for wind turbines.

Throughout his tenure in Congress, Pompeo received over $1 million in donations from the billionaire Koch brothers’ network, making him their top recipient in the Trump administration. He collected $71,100 from Koch Industries, the Republican megadonors’ fossil fuel conglomerate, catapulting Pompeo to the top of the company’s recipients in Congress in 2016 alone, according to data collated by the Center for Responsive Politics.

 

[C4Cat]

So is the new Secretary of State

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...-state-department_us_5aa7e180e4b03c9edfaffc0a

In his six years as a Republican congressman from Kansas, Pompeo voted so routinely against environmental policies that he received a 4 percent lifetime score on the League of Conservation Voters’ ranking. In 2011, he unsuccessfully pushed to end energy subsidies in a move Ebell said was meant to target tax credits for wind turbines.

Throughout his tenure in Congress, Pompeo received over $1 million in donations from the billionaire Koch brothers’ network, making him their top recipient in the Trump administration. He collected $71,100 from Koch Industries, the Republican megadonors’ fossil fuel conglomerate, catapulting Pompeo to the top of the company’s recipients in Congress in 2016 alone, according to data collated by the Center for Responsive Politics.

Just more draining the swamp! Nothing to see here

 

[Techne]

Another person linked to the Russia-hating Boris Berezovsky idiot bites the dust. Shame.

And Theresa May from UKistan is threatening Russia. Hilarious

 

[OrbitalDawn]

Wow, the new CIA director is a piece of work:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gina_Haspel

Yep.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/02/us/politics/cia-deputy-director-gina-haspel-torture-thailand.html

The C.I.A.’s first overseas detention site was in Thailand. It was run by Ms. Haspel, who oversaw the brutal interrogations of two detainees, Abu Zubaydah and Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri.

Mr. Zubaydah alone was waterboarded 83 times in a single month, had his head repeatedly slammed into walls and endured other harsh methods before interrogators decided he had no useful information to provide.

The sessions were videotaped and the recordings stored in a safe at the C.I.A. station in Thailand until 2005, when they were ordered destroyed. By then, Ms. Haspel was serving at C.I.A. headquarters, and it was her name that was on the cable carrying the destruction orders.

So is the new Secretary of State

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...-state-department_us_5aa7e180e4b03c9edfaffc0a

In his six years as a Republican congressman from Kansas, Pompeo voted so routinely against environmental policies that he received a 4 percent lifetime score on the League of Conservation Voters’ ranking. In 2011, he unsuccessfully pushed to end energy subsidies in a move Ebell said was meant to target tax credits for wind turbines.

Throughout his tenure in Congress, Pompeo received over $1 million in donations from the billionaire Koch brothers’ network, making him their top recipient in the Trump administration. He collected $71,100 from Koch Industries, the Republican megadonors’ fossil fuel conglomerate, catapulting Pompeo to the top of the company’s recipients in Congress in 2016 alone, according to data collated by the Center for Responsive Politics.

He was also a Benghazi fanatic, torture advocate and a bigot.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018...s-torture-guantanamo-bay-180313145408365.html

Oh its the latest right wing propaganda meme. They have fully co-opted the farm attacks as proof positive of a white genocide.

Some conservative journalist, Lauren Southern visited SA recently and did a series of videos on the subject matter.

She's not a 'journalist' by any stretch of the word. She's a far right white nationalist hack and grifter.