US politics general thread

[yebocan]

My goodness Jeff Sessions triggered all the anti-religious bigots and snowflakes with his Bible quotes. Hilarious!

like the Colbert take....on old Jim Crow, I mean old Jeff Sessions..[video=youtube_share;j4KaLkYxMZ8]https://youtu.be/j4KaLkYxMZ8?t=85[/video] from about 1:27

 

[yebocan]

Goes a long way to explaining the unprecedented volume of spin and outright lies 45 was spewing on the WH lawn this morning.

not forgetting the little trade war he started with China

 

[greg0205]

not forgetting the little trade war he started with China

No, no... Trade wars are good, and easy to win™

Think his panties are in a bunch 'cos he got caught on film saluting a NK general... You know, a 'common courtesy' if you're 45 but treason if you're a black man who happens to be president.

 

[RanzB]

Breaking on MSNBC as I type... Paul Manafort's $10M bail has just been revoked. He's being transported to jail now.

Campaign Head for 144 Days
Personally Picked Pence
Worked w/ Trump for 30 years
Lived in Trump Tower, where he met Trump constantly
Worked on Trump transition team
Attended Trump Tower meeting

The best people

 

[greg0205]

The best people

The very best.

 

[cerebus]

Donald J. Trump
[MENTION=365188]Reald[/MENTION]onaldTrump
Democrats can fix their forced family breakup at the Border by working with Republicans on new legislation, for a change! This is why we need more Republicans elected in November. Democrats are good at only three things, High Taxes, High Crime and Obstruction. Sad!
3:03 PM - Jun 16, 2018

 

[f2wohf]

Not sure where to post but I stumbled into this interesting thing.

EU has a very positive trade balance with the US.



US has also a positive trade balance with the EU.



Which is technically impossible...

Apparently, it would be due to the use of tax havens.

 

[cerebus]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...8123c8-6fd0-11e8-bd50-b80389a4e569_story.html

Trump associate Roger Stone reveals new contact with Russian national during 2016 campaign

The man, who called himself Henry Greenberg, offered damaging information about Hillary Clinton, Trump’s presumptive Democratic opponent in the upcoming presidential election, according to Stone who spoke about the previously unreported incident in interviews with The Washington Post. Greenberg, who did not reveal the information he claimed to possess, wanted Trump to pay $2 million for the political dirt, Stone said.

“You don’t understand Donald Trump,” Stone recalled saying before rejecting the offer at a restaurant in the Russian-expat magnet of Sunny Isles, Fla. “He doesn’t pay for anything.”

 

[OrbitalDawn]

Sarah Saunders and Jeff Sessions spouting Christian Bible in the course of their political duties.

Come on - are these people really fit to be seen as "leaders of the free world"?

Maybe I'm missing something but I don't see a connection between this passage and the issue of separating children from parents at the border.

Not at all a coincidence that it's the same passage that slave-owners used to justify their actions. That ghoul Stephen Miller was also boasting about how the cruelty is the purpose.

Asylum means you actually have to apply for it. They wouldn't be in detention centres if they did everything legally.

The people who have been applying for asylum at the border are not thrown into camps. They are told to wait in line...

Plain, unabashed lies.

https://www.texastribune.org/2018/0...um-disabilities-separated-grandmother-border/

Ten months ago, Maria Vandelice de Bastos and her 16-year-old grandson arrived at the Santa Teresa Port of Entry in nearby New Mexico. The pair told federal agents they were seeking asylum.

Though Vandelice de Bastos passed a standard screening for such claims, known as a credible fear interview, she and her grandson were soon separated and she hasn't seen him since, according to her attorney.

While she sits in a federal detention center in El Paso, Matheus da Silva Bastos, who has severe epilepsy and autism, is more than 2,000 miles away at a state-run center in Connecticut.

Despite claims from the Trump administration that it is only separating families seeking asylum who cross the border illegally in between ports of entry and only began doing so recently, Vandelice de Bastos's case appears to prove the exact opposite.

More.

Besides, illegal entry is a misdemeanor. Do you think kids should be torn from their parents for DUIs and graffiti?

And have you read about how these people treat them? It's abhorrent.

According to federal defenders, some Border Patrol agents are lying to families about why and how long they’re being separated. A federal defender told the Washington Post’s Michael E. Miller that parents were told their children were just being taken away briefly for questioning. Liz Goodwin of the Boston Globe cites a defender saying that in several cases, children were taken “by Border Patrol agents who said they were going to give them a bath. As the hours passed, it dawned on the mothers the kids were not coming back.”

Rep. Pramila Jayapal (D-WA), who visited a federal prison where some mothers were being housed on Sunday, recounted stories of women being told by Border Patrol agents that “their ‘families would not exist anymore’ and that they would ‘never see their children again.’”

And then when said government wants to put in measures that would actually help the situation, (like a wall), they are literately an army of mecha-Hiters.

Nonsense.

Arrests For Illegal Border Crossings Hit 46-Year Low

The majority of people who are there illegally overstay their visas, they don't cross the border illegally. A wall won't do anything about that.

You know what reduces illegal immigration? Improving the economy of the countries people are coming from, as NAFTA did.

 

[OrbitalDawn]

Debating excuses made for an evil policy isn't something that interests me, sorry.

Another neat example of how the idea that the American populace would resist a tyrannical government is pure fantasy. A very large portion of the population would be cheering them on gleefully.

Also, funny that the same people who cry crocodile tears over how some conservative dopes get treated on college campuses have no problem with this stuff, go figure.

 

[RanzB]

Trump just tweeted that “crime in Germany is way up.” It’s actually at its lowest level since 1992.

Just another daily lie that Republitards will swallow gleefully.

 

[daveza]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jun/18/donald-trump-us-migrant-camp-border-separation

Well then when is he removing this ?

Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!

 

[OrbitalDawn]

Trump just tweeted that “crime in Germany is way up.” It’s actually at its lowest level since 1992.

Just another daily lie that Republitards will swallow gleefully.

This is why.

https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/status/1008719349140639744

It doesn't matter to Trump and his supporters that crime is at a 25 year low in Germany. To them brown immigrants and bad things is synonymous, so if there's lots of brown immigrants then that must mean crime is up. You're not going to convince them otherwise with facts.

Same reason they think it's fine and good that children are being kidnapped and locked in cages.

 

[RanzB]

Document reveals Trump administration planned on separating migrant families soon after inauguration

 

[crackersa]

I’m officially embarrassed. And then add space force....wtf?

 

[cerebus]

https://www.propublica.org/article/...ts-border-patrol-cbp-trump-immigration-policy

Listen to Children Who’ve Just Been Separated From Their Parents at the Border

ProPublica has obtained audio from inside a U.S. Customs and Border Protection facility, in which children can be heard wailing as an agent jokes, “We have an orchestra here.”

https://youtu.be/PoncXfYBAVI


Cue konfab to tell us how humane this is and it wouldn't be happening if they'd just come in the legal way

 

[OrbitalDawn]

Document reveals Trump administration planned on separating migrant families soon after inauguration

Over the last 2 or so days they've maintained all of the following:

- It isn't happening
- There is no policy
- There is a policy that we decided is good
- We decided to do it long ago and it was an easy decision
- It's good because it deters people
- The Bible says we have to
- It's Democrats' fault

Listen to Children Who’ve Just Been Separated From Their Parents at the Border

ProPublica has obtained audio from inside a U.S. Customs and Border Protection facility, in which children can be heard wailing as an agent jokes, “We have an orchestra here.”

 

[cerebus]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...luding-children-crammed-detention-center.html

 

[OrbitalDawn]

https://www.propublica.org/article/...ts-border-patrol-cbp-trump-immigration-policy

Listen to Children Who’ve Just Been Separated From Their Parents at the Border

ProPublica has obtained audio from inside a U.S. Customs and Border Protection facility, in which children can be heard wailing as an agent jokes, “We have an orchestra here.”

https://youtu.be/PoncXfYBAVI


Cue konfab to tell us how humane this is and it wouldn't be happening if they'd just come in the legal way

Which is despicable in and of itself, but they turn away legal asylum claims, too.

https://www.theatlantic.com/video/index/563084/us-border-asylum/

https://twitter.com/JeremyRaff/status/1007450974418554880

Today I watched a Guatemalan youth ask CBP agents for asylum protection for the 22nd time in 4 days. He’s with his mom and 11 y/o brother. They have been sleeping on the ground near the Matamoros-Brownsville bridge and eating donated snacks.

Narcos shot him 7 times, once through the eye socket, beat him w their pistol grips, left him for dead.

 

[cerebus]

Which is despicable in and of itself, but they turn away legal asylum claims, too.

https://www.theatlantic.com/video/index/563084/us-border-asylum/

https://twitter.com/JeremyRaff/status/1007450974418554880

:erm:

I'm trying to think of a meaningful difference between this and fascism