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Pitbull said:
You only partially quoted my post.

Assault doesn't need a weapon, point 1. Point 2, nor does an invasion. Please explain to me what you're trying to say here as you seem to be posting a lot of nothing apart from asking me if they are armed or not...
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That you are absolutely certain that 2000 men, women and children are going to assault a heavily armed border crossing while being armed with nothing but there bare hands? I just want to know how you came to that conclusion?
 
Cray said:
Nope, I called Seriously a troll because he made no attempt to back up his "statement of fact" and because he routinely posts the NPC meme in response to people's posts, try keep up.
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Not sure if I agree Cray - Facts and GOP do not go hand in hand - if they decided to use facts (evidence and science) they will be a different party - something more like a European conservative party.
 
Aquila ka Hecate said:
This kind of worries me.
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Multiple options:

- the US routinely accuses Russia of breaking this treaty, if their "#1 enemy" doesn't have to obey the rules why should the US?

- the treaty is a farce anyway, Russia already has long range missiles than can effectively strike anywhere on earth, telling them to not build medium range missiles merely makes it more expensive to nuke Germany, because they would need to use a long range missile instead, or they would use short range missiles from Kaliningrad, useless treaty

- the EU is the main beneficiary of the treaty anyway, why should the US care?
 
Cray said:
That you are absolutely certain that 2000 men, women and children are going to assault a heavily armed border crossing while being armed with nothing but their bare hands? I just want to know how you came to that conclusion?
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If they line up in front of the border post and queue peacefully there would be no need of violence.

If they (and this is likely) storm the border and try and swamp the post, they are the ones committing an act of aggression.
 
Cray said:
That you are absolutely certain that 2000 men, women and children are going to assault a heavily armed border crossing while being armed with nothing but there bare hands? I just want to know how you came to that conclusion?
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If not, they won't be shot, it's not science is it?

Do you think America will stand on their border and shoot Migrants on the other side of the border? I think you're trying to play devils advocate here but are failing.

If 2000+ people rush and cross a border, America has the full right to defend it's country from such an invasion and do so by force.
 
konfab said:
If they line up in front of the border post and queue peacefully there would be no need of violence.

If they (and this is likely) storm the border and try and swamp the post, they are the ones committing an act of aggression.
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That kind of logic eludes him... Which I know is not without intent. He knew exactly what I'm saying, he's playing at something here.
 
Cray said:
I just want to know how you came to that conclusion?
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Exhibit A:

Violence ALWAYS ensues when masses storm borders without the legal right to cross them, ALWAYS.

The most interesting bit about this caravan is who is paying for it. I mean it is highly likely Soros, but when will it be discovered?
 
Pitbull said:
That kind of logic eludes him... Which I know is not without intent. He knew exactly what I'm saying, he's playing at something here.
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Have no issue with keeping them out with force if they storm the border. (non lethal), have plenty of issues with shooting them all if they are not armed.
 
Cray said:
Have no issue with keeping them out with force if they storm the border. (non lethal), have plenty of issues with shooting them all if they are not armed.
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What does this effective non-lethal force look like?
 
NarrowBandFtw said:
Exhibit A:

Violence ALWAYS ensues when masses storm borders without the legal right to cross them, ALWAYS.

The most interesting bit about this caravan is who is paying for it. I mean it is highly likely Soros, but when will it be discovered?
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It's definitely being funded by some libtard/s. Playing games with people's lives for a reason to force Trumps hand and the Liberals standing there saying: What a travesty, so many innocent lives lost bleh bleh bleh. Trying to get some public sympathy and support.

Trump should hold firm, and if they charge the border, shoot the shyte out of them. That is what the Republicans want to see and the reason they voted for him!
 
Pitbull said:
An assault on your border by 2000+ people? You say, they should be handled like immigrants?

They should be treated as enemies of the state and shot at the border! This will create a precedent and more and more of this will happen. It's an invasion, not a migration...
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Thats the response whoever started this is hoping for;)
 
Cray said:
Have no issue with keeping them out with force if they storm the border. (non lethal), have plenty of issues with shooting them all if they are not armed.
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non-lethal measures simply do not stop a horde, so the sad reality is they either do not try to invade or they risk getting shot, justifiably so

EDIT: and I don't know if you've been to the US, but even just going through customs at the airport with marines, armed with their M16's, patrolling elevated platforms while monitoring the decidedly peaceful crowd ... you would need to be a special breed of retard to give them a reason to mess you up
 
Cray said:
Have no issue with keeping them out with force if they storm the border. (non lethal), have plenty of issues with shooting them all if they are not armed.
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How do you stop 2000+ people non-lethally? Are you serious right now?
 
Temujin said:
Thats the response whoever started this is hoping for;)
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I agree whole heartedly. Trump should double down and Make America Great Again!

He should be announcing that they will apply deadly force if the border is charged. Make it public knowledge and stand by it. We'll see who folds first. I can guarantee you it won't be whoever is funding this as they are not in that group. Playing with people's lives for political points...
 
Pitbull said:
I agree whole heartedly. Trump should double down and Make America Great Again!

He should be announcing that they will apply deadly force if the border is charged. Make it public knowledge and stand by it. We'll see who folds first. I can guarantee you it won't be whoever is funding this as they are not in that group. Playing with people's lives for political points...
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It would kill the Republican turnout for the midterms.
 
Xarog said:
It would kill the Republican turnout for the midterms.
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It's a gamble Trump will have to take.

It will either cement his stance and Republican dominance, or go down in a flame of glory. Time to double down and go for it!
 
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