US protests/riots 2020

wbot said:
Why do people think the concrete barriers are on the wrong side? Does it matter on which side they are? I'm no expert but they look to be on the right side to me to stop cars before they can get to fence.
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Fair point. What about the lag bolts being on the wrong side and requiring ID to leave the city instead of when entering the city? More irregularities are observed every day, and at some point, you have to start considering there may be a lot more going on with all this than we know about.
 
DavidFreeman said:
Fair point. What about the lag bolts being on the wrong side and requiring ID to leave the city instead of when entering the city? More irregularities are observed every day, and at some point, you have to start considering there may be a lot more going on with all this than we know about.
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Like I said, which way the fence faces probably doesn't really matter with all the armed troops there. As far the ID thing... no idea, let me quickly call Homeland Security or whoever :p

I don't believe there's some crazy conspiracy going on
 
wbot said:
Like I said, which way the fence faces probably doesn't really matter with all the armed troops there. As far the ID thing... no idea, let me quickly call Homeland Security or whoever :p

I don't believe there's some crazy conspiracy going on
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It looks to me like the ID thing is only in certain restricted areas, and not the entire city.
 
DavidFreeman said:
Attempted coup :ROFL:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1350896490395275266
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Tom Nichols just posted a twitter thread, and I swear he looked right into your soul before he did.

I'mma be a stand-up guy and unroll the whole thing for ya, Dave:

Reading this piece from last summer by @normative, I realize that there is a parallel here between Qanon's "Storm" and the Cold War cults that sprang up at various times, but especially in the 70s and the 80s. Bear with me. /1

"The Storm" is a moment, like nuclear war, after which everything is different, even if there's bloodshed. It's purgative, restorative, resets all the social relationships, ends all traditional and normal social structures. It's shaking society like a huge Etch-A-Sketch. /2

Why is this so attractive to so many broken people? Precisely because it *is* a reset. It's awful, but it's an awfulness that sets everything - including all social differences - back to zero. The high and mighty are smited, and the Common Folk live by their superior wits. /3

The Cold War pulp literature is what one scholar calls "Radioactive Rambos," men freed to be Warrior-Kings of the Wasteland, with all rules about sex and society out the window in the name of a greater good: America, Civilization, Killing Commies. https://brians.wsu.edu/2016/11/18/radioactive-rambos/… /4

The sexual element of Cold War survival cultism was omnipresent. (Dr. Strangelove and "breeding prodigiously" in the mines, etc.) But the other undertone is status. And how the low rise up and rule after the pinheads blow all that **** up. /5

Think of "The Postman," a post-apocalyptic fantasy in which "General Bethlehem" admits who he was in another life: He sold fax machines. You're supposed to side with The Actor, but Bethlehem is the guy who gets it, that Armageddon means his own army - and lots of glory. /6

Anyway, the similarity with Qanon is the idea that this thing, if true, would be awful. Whether a pedophile ring or nuclear war, it would be better not to be true. But if it were - well, wouldn't it be awesome if we Ordinary Folk ended up being the generals of our own army. /7

Nuclear survival cultishness was eroded each day that there was no nuclear war. Qanon, by contrast, has a lot more resilience because it is unfalsifiable. That's going to make it harder to unwind and the people that are in it will always wonder if they were on to something. /8

And each day that goes by where there *isn't* some big pedophile reveal is going to make them a little nuttier. The people I knew who stockpiled water had to give it up eventually. This is easier: You just have to believe in it. No effort needed. /9

But anyway, the point is that people sometimes need to believe in Some Huge Terrifying Thing so they can create a heroic narrative in their minds. Nuclear war was, and is, a real threat. But these Q nuts...man, that makes nuclear war survivalism look rational by comparison. /10x

https://twitter.com/x/status/1351011133264719875


You're welcome.
 
buka001 said:
A tweet that gives a brief explainer of what David is hoping for. The current arc of hardcore Qanon theorists.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1350649016627961856

All because of which way the barriers face ...
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I have to admit it was a nice fantasy at first, the swamp getting drained and cleaned up with mass arrests of those that have become so completely corrupt..... but how the hell can anyone STILL believe this nonsense after all these years of nothing happening?
 
rambo919 said:
I have to admit it was a nice fantasy at first, the swamp getting drained and cleaned up with mass arrests of those that have become so completely corrupt..... but how the hell can anyone STILL believe this nonsense after all these years of nothing happening?
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I always wrote QAnon off as just some crazy conspiracy theory, so I never bothered to even learn the most basic things about it until last year when the Democrats and media started actively trying to discredit it, and by doing so gave it much more credibility.

Regardless of the fringe beliefs many people hold, the universal thing at the core of that community is simply doing real research and acknowledging objective reality, and that should be something that any rational sane person does on their own without needing any conspiracy theory or the help of some community.
 
DavidFreeman said:
I always wrote QAnon off as just some crazy conspiracy theory, so I never bothered to even learn the most basic things about it until last year when the Democrats and media started actively trying to discredit it, and by doing so gave it much more credibility.

Regardless of the fringe beliefs many people hold, the universal thing at the core of that community is simply doing real research and acknowledging objective reality, and that should be something that any rational sane person does on their own without needing any conspiracy theory or the help of some community.
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With the Q drops having been analyzed as belonging to two different people it's quite possible that the original source was real and that someone took over for whatever reason..... it could all be complete disinformation though to keep everyone busy with nothing while the real moves are being made.... or someone is a psychopath mastermind or something.

The Q thing simply went too far off the crazy cliff and now no one knows whats real.
 
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