Using Flickr

bwana said:
I guess I shouldn't be too surprised. :o
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I think as Koffie says, these sites need to have these terms and conditions to keep themselves from being sued for someone's image ending up in the wrong place. They are covering their own asses rather than saying they are going to use your images for their gain.
 
LancelotSA said:
I think as Koffie says, these sites need to have these terms and conditions to keep themselves from being sued for someone's image ending up in the wrong place. They are covering their own asses rather than saying they are going to use your images for their gain.
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But they sure dont rule that possibility out though do they.
 
LancelotSA, you leave out the bit immediately preceeding that:

facebook said:
When you post User Content to the Site, you authorise and direct us to make such copies thereof as we deem necessary in order to facilitate the posting and storage of the User Content on the Site. By posting User Content to any part of the Site, you automatically grant, and you represent and warrant that you have the right to grant, to the Company an irrevocable, perpetual, non-exclusive, transferable, fully paid, worldwide licence (with the right to sublicence) to use, copy, publicly perform, publicly display, reformat, translate, excerpt (in whole or in part) and distribute such User Content for any purpose, commercial, advertising, or otherwise, on or in connection with the Site or the promotion thereof, to prepare derivative works of, or incorporate into other works, such User Content, and to grant and authorise sublicences of the foregoing.
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LancelotSA said:
You may remove your User Content from the Site at any time. If you choose to remove your User Content, the licence granted above will automatically expire, however you acknowledge that the Company may retain archived copies of your User Content. Facebook does not assert any ownership over your User Content; rather, as between us and you, subject to the rights granted to us in these Terms, you retain full ownership of all of your User Content and any intellectual property rights or other proprietary rights associated with your User Content.
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So even if you don't lose the rights to your images, you do give them a full, free, gratis license to do what ever the hell they want with it. So by this license, they take a picture of you, photoshop your face onto some guy shagging his goat, and sell it to a bestiality website for good money, and you will not get a penny and won't be able to stop them either.

If anyone is going to make a buck off my pictures, it had better be me.
 
LancelotSA said:
I think as Koffie says, these sites need to have these terms and conditions to keep themselves from being sued for someone's image ending up in the wrong place. They are covering their own asses rather than saying they are going to use your images for their gain.
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I wouldn't bet on it. They need to make money too.
 
bwana said:
But they sure dont rule that possibility out though do they.
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Yeah for sure. But none of the image sites do I reckon.

koffiejunkie said:
LancelotSA, you leave out the bit immediately preceeding that:
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Yes I know. I posted both of those for differing reasons. The first was to show that although Facebook do say they they have rights to use your images they do not take ownership of them and you are free to delete them.

So even if you don't lose the rights to your images, you do give them a full, free, gratis license to do what ever the hell they want with it. So by this license, they take a picture of you, photoshop your face onto some guy shagging his goat, and sell it to a bestiality website for good money, and you will not get a penny and won't be able to stop them either.

If anyone is going to make a buck off my pictures, it had better be me.
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And the terms of Flickr (Yahoo) appear to say the same thing so it nullifies this argument. The only way your pictures are safe is on your own computer (and even then you need to hope you don't get hacked!)
 
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koffiejunkie said:
I wouldn't bet on it. They need to make money too.
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I really cannot see how they are going to use my reduced size/low res images on Facebook to make money... now if you could upload full size images like on Flickr then fine! It would also only take one story like this to get out on the net for them to die... so yes, they need to make money but with no users they are worth nothing!
 
koffiejunkie said:
If anyone is going to make a buck off my pictures, it had better be me.
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Apparently they aren't profitable, but the point is that they (should) make money by attracting visitors to their site, and they attact visitors to their site by displying your photos publically.

No photo's, no website, no profits.

So yes, they are already making a buck off your pictures, (or at least trying to)
 
Is there away to change the way pictures are ordered in the photostream? Mine are ordered by Uploaded Date, I'd prefer Taken Date.
 
xrapidx said:
Why do you have several free ones? :confused:

Is the pro worth it?
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Sometimes its easier for me to quickly set up a flickr account that to set up one up on one of my servers.

Is it worth it? Not sure really - try it for a year and figure it out for yourself. I probably wont renew mine for a third year when the second expires.
 
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