V&A Waterfront Vision

[Necuno]

why all this fuss over a crappy city like capetown, rather go with something better like dullstroom





/run for safe hills

 

[Hosehead]

why all this fuss over a crappy city like capetown, rather go with something better like dullstroom

Indeed. They can build a huge skyscraper there topped with a Trout.

 

[capetownguy]

Ostrich for you.

Change for change sake.

The point I was trying to make, and which obviously hasn't penetrated, is that there was a common, which belonged to us and which we could visit whenever we wanted to, free. Now someone else controls it, it isn't free and we can't go there whenever we like. Next time they should keep their grubby hands off public land and use council land or expropriate private areas. Will they stop at Greenpoint, I doubt it. It is a matter of principle Mr. Ostrich.

Keep your grubby hands off our public land.

 

[Sackboy]

Keep your grubby hands off our public land.

Caption: "Please can we have our ball back? NO, this is private property!"

 

[capetownguy]

so very green

 

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[Sackboy]

so very green

We could have had our own Hyde Park, but for the ones fixated on toilet bowls.

 

[capetownguy]

keep digging that grave. most of us are enjoying it.

 

[Sackboy]

keep digging that grave. most of us are enjoying it.

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Didn't you announce you were going, mr. cut 'n paste? The only one obsessed with toilet shaped concrete objects is you. Speaking of graves, I suppose a money pit can be seen as that.

 

[capetownguy]

I announced that I was ending any debate with you since you cannot contribute anything new, probably have nothing new to contribute and refer to your opinion as fact.

Your humorous riffle raffle in between provides entertainment.

 

[hj2k_x]

I announced that I was ending any debate with you since you cannot contribute anything new, probably have nothing new to contribute and refer to your opinion as fact.

Your humorous riffle raffle in between provides entertainment.

It is for the best.

 

[Sackboy]

I announced that I was ending any debate with you since you cannot contribute anything new, probably have nothing new to contribute and refer to your opinion as fact.

Your humorous riffle raffle in between provides entertainment.

Yet you continue - as arrogant as ever!? What more have you brought to the table, apart from some hideous construction site photos that you never took.
You don't even concede that the Council WILL in fact have to contribute towards this white elephant. Still sidestepping the facts.

 

[hj2k_x]

I like the photos. So does everyone else

 

[Sackboy]

I like the photos. So does everyone else

Your opinion overriding everything again 'enry?

 

[capetownguy]

Much of what I have stated is fact and has been said with reference to the reality of sites and venues in Athlone, Philippi, Green Point, Culemborg and Wingfield as well as the documents below.

Some of the documents I have read/reviewed (I have a copies of each of them):

- Draft Terms of the SAIL/Stade de France Stadium Operator Agreement
- FIFA Host City Agreement
- FIFA Stadium Use Agreement
- FIFA 2007 Technical Recommendations and Requirements for Stadia
- Cape Town 2010 Host City Transport Operations Plan
- Section plans of Green Point Stadium Level 0 - 6
- Green Point 1998 Framework
- Green Point Common Action Plan 2002
- Green Point Urban Planning Presentation
- Green Point Public Participation Documents
- Green Point Stadium ROD
- Full Green Point Stadium EIA by Enviropatnership
- Stadium Site Study (Bayette 2006) Culemborg, Wingfield, Athlone, Blue Down, Green Point
- Culemborg Precinct Framework
- Wingfield Human Settlements Project
- Full Rezoning Application for Green Point Stadium including all comments by the public
- Green Point Stadium Design Report
- Green Point Stadium Construction Management Plan by Murray and Roberts/WBHO
- Cape Town 2010 Parliamentary Presentation
- Green Point Olympic Tennis Centre, Cape Town 2004 Olympic Candidature File

Some of the presentatiosn I have attended
- 2010 Provincial Co-ordinator Laurine Platzy
- Green Point Urban Park Presentation by Jakupa, Comrie Wilkinson and Munnik Visser
- Green Point Stadium Architect Robert Hormes
- Green Point Stadium Roof Engineer SBP Engineer
- Cape Town 2010 Transport Team

Most of these documents or extracts( as most of them are huge!) are available upon request to all forumers. Many are also public documents. Some of them I cannot pass on.

 

[hj2k_x]

Your opinion overriding everything again 'enry?

Only yours I'm afraid, only yours

 

[Sackboy]

Many are also public documents. Some of them I cannot pass on.

Why aren't they all public?

You still haven't admitted that the council will have to pay in.. Perhaps you didn't read that one.

 

[capetownguy]

As I said, I'm not getting into this with you. Even If I presented the draft terms of the contract for maintaining the stadium you would slam it down.