Yeah, I'm not sure over the cellphone thing.He had 1 hour and 40 minutes.
Check the train timetables.
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Yeah, I'm not sure over the cellphone thing.He had 1 hour and 40 minutes.
Check the train timetables.
Yeah, I'm not sure over the cellphone thing.
Van der Vyver looks to UN for payout
Cape Town - Fred van der Vyver, the man acquitted of murdering his Stellenbosch girlfriend Inge Lotz in 2005, has approached the UN Human Rights Committee in an attempt to win damages and recover costs for what he believes was his unjust treatment by prosecutors.
An application to the committee, drafted by senior advocates Dup de Bruyn and Barry Pienaar, maintains that Van der Vyver’s human rights were compromised.
It also argues that the government should pay damages to him. The complaint was filed with the UN’s Geneva head office.
Ryan Tutt, a member of Van der Vyver’s legal team, told the Cape Argus he had been instructed not to comment on the specifics of the complaint.
“We do not wish to comment… save to say that it relates to the violation of our client’s rights in terms of the preamble and articles 7, 9 and 17 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, to which South Africa is a signatory state.”
Article 7 prohibits torture and cruel, inhuman or degrading punishment. Article 9 recognises the right to liberty and security.
Article 17 mandates the right of privacy. It protects people against unlawful attacks on their honour and reputation.
Lotz was murdered at her flat in March 2005. Van der Vyver was charged with the murder, but acquitted in 2007. He successfully sued the police for R46 million, but the decision was reversed on appeal.
Lotz’s parents lodged a civil case against Van der Vyver, but it was settled out of court in 2009. Van der Vyver then made an unsuccessful approach to the Constitutional Court.
You've been thinking about this for 8yrs?Case back in the media via News24 YouTube channel..
I dunno.. it’s a tricky one with motive but also general incompetence by the police derailing it so badly that you not sure who did it. Strikes me as odd for the injuries and lack of anything else for it to be a stranger. Just saying..
I know it was 2005 but looking at the evidence and how they “tested” the hammer etc uh .. makes you wonder how people get arrested if they have the funds to fight conviction.
You've been thinking about this for 8yrs?
This book goes into loads of details https://drive.google.com/file/d/19yLe_t3kkBudED9AiYCq73FBgWjQkKAY/viewCase back in the media via News24 YouTube channel..
I dunno.. it’s a tricky one with motive but also general incompetence by the police derailing it so badly that you not sure who did it. Strikes me as odd for the injuries and lack of anything else for it to be a stranger. Just saying..
I know it was 2005 but looking at the evidence and how they “tested” the hammer etc uh .. makes you wonder how people get arrested if they have the funds to fight conviction.
Case back in the media via News24 YouTube channel..
I dunno.. it’s a tricky one with motive but also general incompetence by the police derailing it so badly that you not sure who did it. Strikes me as odd for the injuries and lack of anything else for it to be a stranger. Just saying..
I know it was 2005 but looking at the evidence and how they “tested” the hammer etc uh .. makes you wonder how people get arrested if they have the funds to fight conviction.
"Dear Fred
This letter is going to be a bit more difficult than email (can't delete and make changes over and over), but I must get these little things off my chest this morning.
I am sorry you left here this morning so confused - I was initially unreasonable and consequently the whole thing got out of control.
Firstly, about you and your brothers... I pray that God will give you wisdom on how to handle the situation and that you will be able to resolve the issues between you. Remember, I am ALWAYS there if you want to talk and I very much want to be a part of your life and try to understand what you are going through.
The little things that are bothering me at this time...
I am really sorry about some of the things I said this morning. My biggest mistake over recent times must have been to find my security and solution to my low self-esteem in you instead of in God. I haven't realised it up until now, but God has unbelievable ways to speak to one, and I now realise that I have been the unreasonable one and not you.
Further, I am extremely scared of the Easter weekend and that you will see my father when he has had too much to drink. I don’t want to lose you in such a way, and I don’t want you to see that side of my family. It must sound silly but it's really a big concern to me. And lastly, just the usual little things — work, CT 1 [Financial Mathematics], am I going to get a job, what am I going to do with my flat’? etc. etc.
It sounds silly when I write it down on paper, but it’s only right that you know what is going on. I don’t want to keep bothering you with the same issues!
Sorry that I sometimes forget that you're only human — I look up to you so much and have such great respect for you - your opinions and the way you handle problems. I don’t always realise that you also have bad days and get hurt sometimes. I don’t always know how to support you and if you even need or want support. I don’t understand how you handle hurt - you will have to teach me how to understand you and how to support you.
I feel that I disappoint you if I can’t do the things I mentioned above and that you deserve to have a beautiful girlfriend who looks good, who can cook-))!!) and who is in all respects just as perfect as you are - I struggle sometimes to get there - perhaps this is what is the most difficult for me . . . I know that you don’t expect it of me, but then you must please show me how I can be the perfect girlfriend for YOU.
I love you VERY much and I don’t want to look any further — tomorrow it will be one year since I fell in love with you(the 1st Wednesday afternoon that you alone came over and had coffee with me
- and since that day I have not doubted for one moment that it is you I want. You have enriched my life in so many ways and every day with you is the greatest gift that anyone can dream of.
You need NEVER have doubt again for one moment that I am absolutely committed and that I want with everything within me to be with you forever. I want to promise today that I will not depend on you for a good self-image and for security, but that I will take it to God, and that I will support you in everything that you do and that I will be absolutely honest with you about all aspects of my life. I can also promise you today that I will, with God's grace, always remain faithful and that I will never cheat on you [crossed out by Inge] I will never do anything behind your back.
I love you with all my heart and I have no doubt that I want to spend the rest of my life with you.
Strength with everything at work . . .
All my love"
The letter she supposedly gave Fred is really fascinating.
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Lotz once more | The SwitchBoard
http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2014-06-12-inge-lotz-murder-nine-years-later-two-amateur-forensic-sleuths-once-again-point-fingers-at-fred-van-der-vyver/#.U5lNY4avgwR Two brothers, atheswitch.boards.net
I would imagine you are familiar with the skill known as "writing" which involves moving a pen or similar device on paper to make marks called 'words".How did she use emojis in a letter?
Daisy de Melker?Off topic but.. interestingly we haven’t had a solo female killer/suspect in SA.
I mean yes there was that satanist/cult thing in Krugersdorp a handful years ago but that was a few persons involved incl. a guy.
Or am I forgetting one.. Sa sure had quite a few news worthy murders & serial killers. i see Cpt might have another one targeting people in informal settlement.
Pen?I would imagine you are familiar with the skill known as "writing" which involves moving a pen or similar device on paper to make marks called 'words".
It is, in fact, possible to use the same device to make marks on the paper that resemble faces.
You are welcome.
You sure he's not chiseling on a piece of rock ?Pen?
Is that some firm of sorcery?
Debris uses a quill and ink, on papyrus parchments.
Pen?
Is that some firm of sorcery?
Debris uses a quill and ink, on papyrus parchments.