Vuma Reach Phoenix Thread

Scuderia1 said:
Hi

they are currently trenching outside my house and on the website I see the area is accepting orders. Do you suggest I preorder as well now seeing as they are still trenching outside my house so i can also be in the front of the queue or do I wait for them to complete then order. I am also going with Afrihost.

Thanks
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It depends. When an area is marked as being rolled out then Vumatel usually accepts orders for the area. With Vuma Reach the order comes with a payment link so the payment needs to be made within 10 days or so or the order will expire.

If we order and you pay the link the order goes into Awaiting Network Completion state and once the area is marked as live on the portals the order moved to Scheduling so by doing an order and paying the link means that you have done everything and just needs to be scheduled where clients signing up the order gets placed they pay and then it goes to scheduling.

If the order is in and the area goes live you will likely be first on the install schedule. With limited install teams the install date increases as more people places orders and sometimes if there is a lot of orders for a new area that went live the install wait time can be up to 2 weeks.
 
AfriNatic said:
Hi,

Great stuff. You can follow up with us as soon as the area goes live. These timelines usually change so for our system to keep track is a bit difficult sometimes.

If the area is accepting orders we can place that so long and send you the payment link for the order to be first in the queue when the area is marked as live.
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Looks like Vuma is accepting orders in my area now. Just checked their site and your site no longer lists my address as a "Pre Order location" :D. What are the next steps?
 
AfriNatic said:
It depends. When an area is marked as being rolled out then Vumatel usually accepts orders for the area. With Vuma Reach the order comes with a payment link so the payment needs to be made within 10 days or so or the order will expire.

If we order and you pay the link the order goes into Awaiting Network Completion state and once the area is marked as live on the portals the order moved to Scheduling so by doing an order and paying the link means that you have done everything and just needs to be scheduled where clients signing up the order gets placed they pay and then it goes to scheduling.

If the order is in and the area goes live you will likely be first on the install schedule. With limited install teams the install date increases as more people places orders and sometimes if there is a lot of orders for a new area that went live the install wait time can be up to 2 weeks.
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So from this i take it it would be best for me to preorder and do payment now so i can get to the front of the queue?
 
Scuderia1 said:
So from this i take it it would be best for me to preorder and do payment now so i can get to the front of the queue?
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It's up to you but that is the best way to be in front of the queue. It's not guaranteed though but that is definitely the best way.
 
ghostRgg said:
I mean you could look at an FTTB option, but it will have to be a long term contract of 12-24 months either way, with a pretty pricey upfront install cost, which isn't great but for most schools, you generally need an FTTB line.

There are a few projects in the KZN area which are offering a decently if not free priced gigabit speed for schools. If you pm me the school name and some basic details I can do a check for you.
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They must leave this FTTB crap lol away with copper its old technology and its crap alongside fibre, FTTB is part copper part fibre and you limited to 100mbps but that also depends on copper quality and unit distance from MDF
 
AbuNetworkGuru said:
They must leave this FTTB crap lol away with copper its old technology and its crap alongside fibre, FTTB is part copper part fibre and you limited to 100mbps but that also depends on copper quality and unit distance from MDF
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I think he means Fibre to the Business Abu, don't think anyone in SA does that fibre to the node deployments.
 
Jaseyyxx said:
I think he means Fibre to the Business Abu, don't think anyone in SA does that fibre to the node deployments.
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Correct, FTTB is Fibre to the Business. But Openserve does use fibre in some of its exchanges backhauls.
AbuNetworkGuru said:
They must leave this FTTB crap lol away with copper its old technology and its crap alongside fibre, FTTB is part copper part fibre and you limited to 100mbps but that also depends on copper quality and unit distance from MDF
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What you are referring to here is FTTC, Fibre to the Cabinet. Not FTTB, not sure why some places are trying to call it that.
 
A small pain of water and electricity disruptions for a few hours of the days, and some light damage to the verge areas in exchange to move us forward into the 21st century? So much cheap politicking - it would be hilarious if it wasn't for that they are are real threat to the fibre rollout.

Phoenix is densely populated and the properties compacted close to each other. Are they not allowed to use the Telkom/Openserver poles? Fibre to the pole would have been the best option for a quick rollout and to start earning money, trenching requires a lot of labour and reconstruction is is more costly and all in all a very slow ROI.
 
Vis1/0N said:
A small pain of water and electricity disruptions for a few hours of the days, and some light damage to the verge areas in exchange to move us forward into the 21st century? So much cheap politicking - it would be hilarious if it wasn't for that they are are real threat to the fibre rollout.

Phoenix is densely populated and the properties compacted close to each other. Are they not allowed to use the Telkom/Openserver poles? Fibre to the pole would have been the best option for a quick rollout and to start earning money, trenching requires a lot of labour and reconstruction is is more costly and all in all a very slow ROI.
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Nope, Telkom/Openserve would never allow that. So to get wayleaves to do aerial fibre where there's existing poles of another company isn't easy either. But trenched fibre is just better overall, less risk of damage to the infrastructure, looks cleaner, easier to do a home drop and vuma says it's easier to maintain and repair trenched over Ariel.
 
Vis1/0N said:
A small pain of water and electricity disruptions for a few hours of the days, and some light damage to the verge areas in exchange to move us forward into the 21st century? So much cheap politicking - it would be hilarious if it wasn't for that they are are real threat to the fibre rollout.

Phoenix is densely populated and the properties compacted close to each other. Are they not allowed to use the Telkom/Openserver poles? Fibre to the pole would have been the best option for a quick rollout and to start earning money, trenching requires a lot of labour and reconstruction is is more costly and all in all a very slow ROI.
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Sadly not many people see it that way. Especially given that most of the issues are due to bad municipality infrastructure.

As far as I know (probably wrong now) Vumatel does have permission to use the polls, but it's like renting from Openserve/Telkom at that point. Any other FNO is not allowed to use the polls. The last pricing I saw per a poll rental was crazy, but I am not sure if that's the case anymore. The most convenient rollout is actually micro-trenching, but the municipality often doesn't allow that either. Especially since they also want to get labour fees for trenching, which they wouldn't really get with micro-trenching since it is quick and requires way less employed people.
 
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