VUMA which ISP

Better to do a trace route to a IP we KNOW is in JHB. Mybroadband and cloudflare has CPT servers so could just be a routing issue.
 
cavedog said:
Better to do a trace route to a IP we KNOW is in JHB. Mybroadband and cloudflare has CPT servers so could just be a routing issue.
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I think its because their upstream provider is seacom who only have pop in ct afaik.
 
wingnut771 said:
I think its because their upstream provider is seacom who only have pop in ct afaik.
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Well Seacom as a transit provider does not have a PoP only in CPT. Aeonova360 is using Seacom as their transit provider and it was fine. 2ms in JHB.
 
cavedog said:
It would be silly if they only has ISP handover bandwidth in CT when they peer locally in DUR,JHB and CPT. Not sure if that is actually possible.

https://www.napafrica.net/who-is-peering/
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This is the problem with ISPs who have remote peering without an actual POP in a city - ISPs often purchase a two hop link to an exchange which they don't actually peer at - it's a great way to reduce trasit costs, but it reduces the effectiveness of their peering. Macrolan need to be seen as Seacom Cape Town, not as an independent ISP.
 
websquadza said:
This is the problem with ISPs who have remote peering without an actual POP in a city - ISPs often purchase a two hop link to an exchange which they don't actually peer at - it's a great way to reduce trasit costs, but it reduces the effectiveness of their peering. Macrolan need to be seen as Seacom Cape Town, not as an independent ISP.
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So who carries the traffic from JHB to CPT then? The cablw provider?

Since they peer with other networks at nap africa JHB?

So you have a vumatel client in JHB that gets served by let's level3 peer at nap africa jhb.

Traffic goes to CPT then to JHB then back to CPT then back to JHB?

Maybe I'm confused.
 
cavedog said:
So who carries the traffic from JHB to CPT then? The cablw provider?

Since they peer with other networks at nap africa JHB?

So you have a vumatel client in JHB that gets served by let's level3 peer at nap africa jhb.

Traffic goes to CPT then to JHB then back to CPT then back to JHB?

Maybe I'm confused.
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L2 is the point to point transmission network (JHB to CPT etc), and is provided by a number of industry players. L3 is the actual routing network you connect to. If they don't actually operate a router out of JHB, everything will route out of CPT. So basically, you have the additional leg of traffic transmission from the client in JHB to CPT, then routing and back to JHB. Client <20ms> Core (CPT) <20ms> JHB. Cell C had a similar setup (not sure if it's still that way) for it's clients in CPT - it's core was in JHB.
 
websquadza said:
L2 is the point to point transmission network (JHB to CPT etc), and is provided by a number of industry players. L3 is the actual routing network you connect to. If they don't actually operate a router out of JHB, everything will route out of CPT. So basically, you have the additional leg of traffic transmission from the client in JHB to CPT, then routing and back to JHB. Client <20ms> Core (CPT) <20ms> JHB. Cell C had a similar setup (not sure if it's still that way) for it's clients in CPT - it's core was in JHB.
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Okay that make sense so they probably buying national transit from Openserve or Liquid Telecom to move the traffic to CPT where they will route it.
 
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