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websquadza said:
IPv6 Update: we’re happy to announce that we’re trialling production IPv6 Dual stack on FTTH. Only available on PPPoE networks (sorry Vumatel trenched clients, lack of network support for now means we’ll need to wait). Please PM me if you’re keen to join the trial.

We have a MikroTik setup guide ready to go. Please let me know what router you are using so we can ensure IPv6 support and assist with deployment.
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Not so clued up on v6, does it need to be Mikrotik specifically?
Im Vuma Arial
 
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Concentric said:
Not so clued up on v6, does it need to be Mikrotik specifically?
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The reason for MikroTik: as most of the wifi routers provided for FTTH is mostly "dumb" devices that can do just about only wifi and NATting IPv4, you do need something with a bit more "intelligence" to be able to do IPv6... when ISPs starts to push IPv6 then the other devices will catch up, but they aren't as there are a need/use so they save the money on the dev/etc. for IPv6
 
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Meester said:
The reason for MikroTik: as most of the wifi routers provided for FTTH is mostly "dumb" devices that can do just about only wifi and NATting IPv4, you do need something with a bit more "intelligence" to be able to do IPv6... when ISPs starts to push IPv6 then the other devices will catch up, but they aren't as there are a need/use so they save the money on the dev/etc. for IPv6
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Im running a Ubiquiti EdgeRouter X and a Unifi AP
 
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Most routers from the last couple of years should be dual stack and should be able to work fine IPv6 over PPPoE. Mikrotik routers are just a lot more complicated to setup because they offer a lot more features and flexibility than routers intended for the home.
 
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If using IPv6 properly, all your devices within your LAN will now be exposed to all the dangers on the internet without protection from NAT - so be sure to have your firewall correctly setup to stop things like cameras and unpatched gadgets from getting popped.
 
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waylander said:
If using IPv6 properly, all your devices within your LAN will now be exposed to all the dangers on the internet without protection from NAT - so be sure to have your firewall correctly setup to stop things like cameras and unpatched gadgets from getting popped.
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You are a 100% correct with needing to have your firewall properly configured. Most consumer grade routers handle the firewall configuration for you and you don't need to worry. More advanced routers like Mikrotik it is vital to setup but that can also be said for when you are setting up the IPv4 stack. NAT was never intended to be a security feature but I guess it does add a layer of protection in the event of a poorly configured firewall.
 
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Gambit said:
You are a 100% correct with needing to have your firewall properly configured. Most consumer grade routers handle the firewall configuration for you and you don't need to worry. More advanced routers like Mikrotik it is vital to setup but that can also be said for when you are setting up the IPv4 stack. NAT was never intended to be a security feature but I guess it does add a layer of protection in the event of a poorly configured firewall.
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Sure, but I'm not talking about best-case, by the book implementations and security. I'm talking about the thousands of exposed, vulnerable devices out in the wild right now. Look at Shodan, scan for exposed DVRs in SA... now imagine how many more tens of thousands will be exposed should NAT be removed. IPv6 is great but it requires people to be aware that they might have been relying on NAT for security.
 
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waylander said:
Yes, and how many OOB routers sold for a few hundred rand do that? Not many.
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'cause people don't want to pay for security.... until it hit them....
They only care for their NetFlix/YouTube fix, and then everything is great... but don't you dare impact their FortNite/DayZ/PubG/Steam gaming with security...

Like the saying: The S in IoT stands for Security
 
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Exactly, people would rather have UPnP enabled than deal with manually forwarding ports.
 
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My internet is completely unstable in North Riding (Evotel), up and down the whole time, Speedtest was just showing 0, is there an issue perhaps?
 
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Internet is unstable on Vumatel Aerial as well, period on no connectivity lasting around 5 minutes followed by 5 minutes of connectivity
 
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Zodiak said:
My internet is completely unstable in North Riding (Evotel), up and down the whole time, Speedtest was just showing 0, is there an issue perhaps?
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Seeing flaps on Evotel links in North Riding. Trying to see if it’s just Evotel or general backhaul in the area (Evotel and Vumatel Aerial use the same backhaul provider).
 
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Thank you guys, I really hope they sort it before the evening, streaming a sporting event at 8 pm
 
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