Weight loss

Ol' Mean Bastid said:
I'll say this again based on some of the posts above, exercise whilst good for you in terms of overall health should not be seen as your primary mechanism for weight loss
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Don't give up... eventually this will sink in with one or two folks ;)
I guess it's just natural human tendency to want to do something in order to feel like we're doing something. Simply eating fewer calories doesn't feel like doing something the way exercise does.
 
Chicken Boo said:
Don't give up... eventually this will sink in with one or two folks ;)
I guess it's just natural human tendency to want to do something in order to feel like we're doing something. Simply eating fewer calories doesn't feel like doing something the way exercise does.
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Yes but exercise is still good.
And walking to the fridge and back aint gonna get you a nice butt :erm:
 
systemofpurplelimpminion said:
Just a little FYI, cross fit is natural exercise. Weight training is not. You will get a bit awkward looking from weight training.
But not that much if you stay away from the additional stuff like protein shakes
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Not sure what crossfit you are doing, but there are definitely weights and weight training involved.


googoodoll said:
I think I have a different idea of crossfit...
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Crossfit i find is a nice supplement to other exercise. You are not likely to get "big" doing it, and instead should build functional muscle strength.

Mixing crossfit with something like cardio boxing or squash will have good results
 
I may not be losing weight, but I'm definitely losing cms doing weights. I'm also loving the paleo way of eating. 9th day today and I haven't felt this much energy in a long time.
 
D3nz said:
I may not be losing weight, but I'm definitely losing cms doing weights. I'm also loving the paleo way of eating. 9th day today and I haven't felt this much energy in a long time.
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this is exactly why weight loss is a poor determinant of actual fat loss, muscle is denser than fat so as you burn off fat and build muscle weight may actually increase even though the fat is gone
 
Ol' Mean Bastid said:
this is exactly why weight loss is a poor determinant of actual fat loss, muscle is denser than fat so as you burn off fat and build muscle weight may actually increase even though the fat is gone
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Ok so Drew.. Can we submit cm's as well then??
 
Ol' Mean Bastid said:
this is exactly why weight loss is a poor determinant of actual fat loss, muscle is denser than fat so as you burn off fat and build muscle weight may actually increase even though the fat is gone
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This is very unlikely,

Generally muscle growth and fat loss don't happen at the same time (To gain weight, whether it be muscle or fat a surplus must be eaten)

Additionally the formation of muscle is exponentially slower than fat loss.

One can lose 1kg of fat in a week
One can gain 1kg of muscle in about a month

Therefore muscle gain will never overtake fat loss.

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I guess there is a feasible perfect balance where weight lifting makes up the calorie deficit AND forms muscle but this would be difficult to maintain - hence body builders having bulk/cut cycles
 
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Thanks Drew, this is interesting, but how fast can one loose muscle mass if you don't work out? Is it at the same/equal rate as fat loss?
 
Ol' Mean Bastid said:
this is exactly why weight loss is a poor determinant of actual fat loss, muscle is denser than fat so as you burn off fat and build muscle weight may actually increase even though the fat is gone
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Yep, that's why I don't weigh myself often. Once I can get into my size 10 jeans with no wriggling, hopping or deep breathing, I'll know I've lost weight/fat :D
 
mandana said:
Thanks Drew, this is interesting, but how fast can one loose muscle mass if you don't work out? Is it at the same/equal rate as fat loss?
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There are a multitude of things that could effect the speed of fat loss - I don't profess to know all things :)

I think it has a lot to do with diet/genetics and activity level as to how fast you lose muscle - Don't stress about that - work on gaining ^_^

As the bastid previously mentioned muscle increases metabolism - the more you have - the higher your BMR
 
Burn #1

Basal (resting) metabolism

60%-75%

Your basal metabolic rate, or BMR, accounts for 60-75% of your overall metabolism. Surprisingly. it represents the kilojoules you burn doing nothing at all. It's fuelled by your heart beating, your lungs working to breathe and even your cells dividing.

Burn #2
Digestive metabolism
10%

The burn results from the thermic effect of food, or TEF. Simply digesting food - converting carbohydrates to sugar and protein to amino acids - typically burns 10 % of your daily kilojoules. You burn more kilojoules digesting protein than you do digesting carbohydrates and fat- about 25 kilojoules for every 100 consumed, versus zero to 10 for carbs and fat.

Burn #3

Exercise and movement metabolism

15-30%

This part of your metabolism includes your gym workouts and other physical activites such as jogging or playing ball ( called exercise-activity thermogenesis or EAT). It also includes your countless incidental movements throughout the day, like turning the pages of a magazine (non exercise activity thermogenesis or NEAT).

I got that from one of my old mens health magazines yesterday but couldn't post due to mybb not working .
 
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