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Meh think I will grab a curry tonight but obviously wont eat any starches. Must resist samoosas....
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Tonight is chicken and peppers burritos with garlic and mint sauce, with picco de gallo and coconut guacamole.
I've sacrificed some protein so that I can do the extra carbs tonight. Still only 30g of carbs today...
I've sacrificed some protein so that I can do the extra carbs tonight. Still only 30g of carbs today...
akescpt
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Another fav ruined by eating like this. Goodbye fish and chips. FML
Fish is fine as long as it's not battered or crumbed. Potatoes are out though...
mandana
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I do deadlifts, squats and shoulder press as part of my gym session, the rest its a kettle bell routine with 8kg and 12kg kettles and some cycling to warm up and down.
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I should have asked this question a VERY VERY long time ago....but I only thought about it now since I was wanting it
Is Low GI bread suitable for weight loss? (If the question sounds dumb, please don't shoot me down)
Depending on the eating plan you are following it should be ok but stick to half a slice or one slice as a serving. I personally stay very far away from all bread though.
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Just want to ask a question to the experts here, what are your opinions on this 10 day fast thing?
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Was also wondering about it.
10 days is a bit excessive but there is scientific merit to a fast. Not ten days though - that's hippie bullschit imo. Some people recommend a 24 hour purge before starting ketogenic diets...
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How long would you recommend? I mainly want to do it to get a nice flush/detox/whatever...
I got some stomach issues (IBS) so mainly want to see if it will help or not.
Ketoers typically go on what's called an intermittent fast, to jump start weight loss when starting the diet or when they reach plateaus.
Is there a specific 10 day fast you're referring to?
48 hours max. Detoxes are bullschit hippie stuff btw, but fasting has some merit. 24-36 hours should be more than enough to start the ketosis going though...
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Think it was on 702 or something, so probably just water for 10 days... Didn't even know it was humanely possible to not eat for so long.
Doesn't sound great to me.
One thing about the ketogenic diet, you eat so well and get so full that fasting doesn't really seem like fasting.
OMB
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That woman on 702 today should be taken out and shot, I've never heard so much hogwash, and she's supposed to be a nutrition doctor?
Her best quote (she was obviously a vegan) “the human body is not designed to digest animal fat, it only makes you get fat"
702 should really screen some of the nut jobs they have on as guests
On another note the human body can survive for about 21 days without eating
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I think the only form of detox that works. Is when you are trying to determine a certain food group that doesn't agree with you. And you drop to a very basic eating plan and slowly reintroduce foods until one of them bites. I don't think detox is actually the right word for that, but the hippies built off of this idea when coining the "detox" we know and hate today.
So using my calculator at the end of the day, I can determine how effective today's eating was in terms of the ketogenic diet.
The meals were:
Lunch:
300g beef mince
115g eggs
85g onions
44g butter
62g cheese
Dinner:
100g chicken
15g onions
75g tomatoes
65g bell peppers
15g olive oil
38g cheese
15g butter
45g milk
80g avocado
and a few other minor ingredients that make little difference.
And here's what it looks like in my calculator:
So, what can we deduce from this?
1) I ate too much protein today, both in terms of my goals for meat consumption and in terms of achieving an optimal ketogenic state. It's probably more than okay, but I'm a stickler for something when I set my mind to it.
2) I can also do with more dairy, so I'm going to scrap the cheese and just drink a hefty glass of milk at night to make up for any difference.
3) I came in just under my suggested calorific intake based on my BMR. This is good.
4) I can up my oil intake as well, so I'm going to buy some decent oils to take almost as supplements. I tried to get more oil into my guacamole by drizzling it slowly into the blender to emulsify. It worked, but it's not ideal.
5) Based on the amount of protein I ate today, I've placed myself in somewhat of a fat deficit situation to achieve the golden 4:1 ratio. So I can probably benefit from a vegetarian day with a few carbs instead of proteins (under 50g per day) and up my fat intake for one day to balance that out a little. I'd prefer not to be spiking that chart much so I need to find a balance.
6) This tool is allowing me to make much better decisions about my meals.
It takes about 2 minutes to fill it in for the entire day, and then another few minutes to analyse and make some informed decisions.
So did I eat right today? I don't think so. Too much protein. Protein is glucogenic so I'm doing myself no favours hitting the protein as hard as I did today. As you can see, I ate half a kilo of protein, so there is no way that my body will ignore that. I'll be producing glucose and not achieving what I want. So back to the drawing board with an eating plan, focusing on reducing protein intake more towards my goal of 250g per day.
WRT the tool, I'm going to add more fields to the totals page and base the charting and analysis on that instead - that way it can record every detail of each day and allow a proper historical analysis of your consumption...
I don't know about that. Even a cup of milk has around 13g of carbs. I'd prefer to get that from green veg or go without. Cheese/cream/sour cream is how I like my dairy.