What's happening here ...

[sajunky]

You seem confused; just in case you didn't get it: it's a Retina Macbook Pro meaning:

• The battery is glued in; yip it's not so easy to just pop out.
• The RAM is soldered to the logic board, so no chance to reseat this.
• The SSD format is not the typical one you find in other laptops or buy in a store.

All correct, but what it has to do with the content you were quoting? What I wrote it doesn't contradict above. Still want to shine?

 

[[)roi(]]

What's SMC?

Also the machine was warm only when the it had the issue. As if the screen stayed on.
When restarted it cooled surprisingly very quickly.

SMC = System Management Controller; it is generally advised that the SMC be reset if you're experiencing issues with:

• regularity of the fans (for example: either running excessively high with low temperatures or the reverse)
• Key board back light
• Status Indicator Lights (SIL)
• Battery Indicator Lights (BIL)
• Display/screen's back lighting
• Power button (failure to function correctly)
• Failure to charge
• Problems with opening or closing the lid (sleep / awake issues)
• Battery charging issues
• System performance problems (excessively high CPU / GPU issues).
• etc...

Just be aware that it is not a general fix it for all issues; many issues can stem from faulty applications, hardware, kext (drivers), configuration (app and / or system) or even sometimes just fault application metadata.

Also if you remember that at the end of Apple's advisory note of this issue they say:

If none of these steps resolve the issue, start up from the Mac OS X Installation disc and reinstall Mac OS X.

The reason for them recommending as a final step: a reinstall of Mac OS X, is to cover the possibility that the problems stems from bad system settings / configuration, corrupted kext (drivers), ...

Btw if the screen stayed on, then that could be a likely cause of the heating issue : SMC reset advised.

 

[[)roi(]]

All correct, but what it has to do with the content you were quoting? What I wrote it doesn't contradict above. Still want to shine?

Did you forget your 1st post in this thread, ok let me help you with that:

Just add to above, it is critical: don't do any testing, backup first. If any problems during backup, power off, remove battery, reseat SSD to clean contacts and try again.

 

[sajunky]

I wouldn't recommend installing third-party power management utilities having problem with core sleep/wake up and possibly SSD. It would add another level of uncertainty.

 

[[)roi(]]

I wouldn't recommend installing third-party power management utilities having problem with core sleep/wake up and possibly SSD. It would add another level of uncertainty.

third-party power management utilities...?
What thread are you reading?

 

[sajunky]

third-party power management utilities...?
What thread are you reading?

Fan control and temperature monitor stuff. Lets Apple to fix core system management problems. This is my point, if you understand what you read, but you demonstrated couple of times that you don't. Even you are quoting official Apple statements, you don't understand what it means.

 

[[)roi(]]

Fan control and temperature monitor stuff. Lets Apple to fix core system management problems. This is my point, if you understand what you read, but you demonstrated couple of times that you don't. Even you are quoting official Apple statements, you don't understand what it means.

Aaah at least you never fail to amuse me.

Ps. You do hopefully understand the difference between power management, temperature and fans? I really don't need to try to explain this to you, or do I?

Btw just in case you missed it; the thread is about Mac issues?

 

[sajunky]

Aaah at least you never fail to amuse me.

Ps. You do hopefully understand the difference between power management, temperature and fans? I really don't need to try to explain this to you, or do I?

You posted a quote from the official statemet about SMC. It indicate that Apple has serious problems with power management including sleep/awake by the lid switch. You don't understand it at all, as in the same time you advice to install fan and temerature control utilities as a solution. I just made a note that such utilities are unable to help if a sleep/awake function is not working correctly. I see you are not happy with it and it is example of your typical response when having nothing to say... nothing new.

 

[[)roi(]]

You posted a quote from the official statemet about SMC. It indicate that Apple has serious problems with power management including sleep/awake by the lid switch. You don't understand it at all, as in the same time you advice to install fan and temerature control utilities as a solution. I just made a note that such utilities are unable to help if a sleep/awake function is not working correctly. I see you are not happy with it and it is example of your typical response when having nothing to say... nothing new.

Honestly how could anyone take what you say seriously, when you start with a suggestion to remove the battery and to reseat the SSD; that just shows no understanding of the equipment (Retina MacBook Pro) and no comprehension of how warranties are voided.

Now I could just leave this on that note, but for your benefit and anyone else I'll summarize the advice given.

Firstly it's important that you don't incorrectly infer Apple has a serious problem if they've posted a note about an issue. These notes are there to provide assistance for all manner of issues, yes even those that don't occur very often.

Remember If it was a serious problem there would be massive media frenzy (nobody lets Apple issues escape attention these days), and in conjunction you would also find an Apple note recalling either the full product or requesting that existing customers bring their equipment in for replacement of e.g. the SSD under warranty, more so Apple would probably email it's customers using their details provided during the initial registration step (I've experienced this once with a HDD issue on an iMac)

This particular problem from my research appears to be isolated to either a SMC, NVRAM / PRAM issue (reset required) or in a few cases it seemed to point to a possible intermittent failure of the SSD; which btw on 3 month old rMBP has to be replaced by Apple or someone they've authorized to perform 3rd party maintenance. Hence the advice given by the thread was to perform a backup and take it in for warranty support; startup drive reconfiguration and reset process for SMC / NVRAM / PRAM issues.

Now if you remember the OP also reported that it was quite hot, and he wasn't sure how to prove to the iStore that he was experiencing these types of issues. To isolate the boot issues; it was suggested he look at the console (e.g. startup logs), and to monitor the temperature I suggested 2 apps. Keep in mind OS X doesn't innately provide an easy way to monitor temperatures.

The one app smcFanControl is pretty well known in Mac circles where the internal drive was replaced with either a 3rd party HHD or SSD. These 3rd party drives won't contain the Apple firmware so the temperature sensor on the HHD or SSD won't function correctly resulting in the fans running all the time; solutions like smcFanControl allow OS X to function normally even though the SSD sensor is not working. A side benefit is that they also report system temperature to allow the OP to gather any proof he required, and actually Temperature Monitor does just that, monitor all the temperatures sensors over time.

 

[sajunky]

Honestly how could anyone take what you say seriously, when you start with a suggestion to remove the battery and to reseat the SSD; that just shows no understanding of the equipment (Retina MacBook Pro) and no comprehension of how warranties are voided.

tRoN was expecting that you wouldn't miss opportunity. And now, how you can take my writing seriously if I don't know about battery or SSD details...what a shame....
Coming back to the issue I see your elaborate reasoning for suggesting temperature/fan control add-ons, but I do still maintain it is not good idea. First at all, when it happen computer should be in suspend state, but is not; possibly constantly bouncing from suspend and awake mode and back, or in result of internal stack overflow or tripple fault exception. I am talking about hardware assisted or (at least) kernel mode routines which run at lower lewel than any user mode application you suggest to use. Your utilities will be able to monitor things when system is fully awake, not in this case. You claim to be computer programmer, but you still need to complete some modern microprocessor architecture and system engineering courses, as you don't understand above. And keep arguing....

 

[[)roi(]]

tRoN was expecting that you wouldn't miss opportunity. And now, how you can take my writing seriously if I don't know about battery or SSD details...what a shame....
Coming back to the issue I see your elaborate reasoning for suggesting temperature/fan control add-ons, but I do still maintain it is not good idea. First at all, when it happen computer should be in suspend state, but is not; possibly constantly bouncing from suspend and awake mode and back, or in result of internal stack overflow or tripple fault exception. I am talking about hardware assisted or (at least) kernel mode routines which run at lower lewel than any user mode application you suggest to use. Your utilities will be able to monitor things when system is fully awake, not in this case. You claim to be computer programmer, but you still need to complete some modern microprocessor architecture and system engineering courses, as you don't understand above. And keep arguing....

And again it's another pointless paragraph of text with zero relevance or advice to the OPs issue.

Oh and let's not forget your assumptions;

Assumptions are dangerous things to make, and like all dangerous things to make -- bombs, for instance, or strawberry shortcake -- if you make even the tiniest mistake you can find yourself in terrible trouble. Making assumptions simply means believing things are a certain way with little or no evidence that shows you are correct,

Give it up already; you're fast becoming quite the joke!

 

[SauRoNZA]

tRoN was expecting that you wouldn't miss opportunity. And now, how you can take my writing seriously if I don't know about battery or SSD details...what a shame....
Coming back to the issue I see your elaborate reasoning for suggesting temperature/fan control add-ons, but I do still maintain it is not good idea. First at all, when it happen computer should be in suspend state, but is not; possibly constantly bouncing from suspend and awake mode and back, or in result of internal stack overflow or tripple fault exception. I am talking about hardware assisted or (at least) kernel mode routines which run at lower lewel than any user mode application you suggest to use. Your utilities will be able to monitor things when system is fully awake, not in this case. You claim to be computer programmer, but you still need to complete some modern microprocessor architecture and system engineering courses, as you don't understand above. And keep arguing....

Do you speak English?

Because I didn't understand a word of that and no it's not because of the geek terminology which I understand perfectly well.

 

[sajunky]

Because I didn't understand a word of that and no it's not because of the geek terminology which I understand perfectly well.

These are technical matters you don't understand. From the users perspective you have to understand one thing: you bought a lemon with high probability of faulty SMC controller. Perhaps in US they sell bug-free version, sending old stock to the countries like South Africa.

 

[SauRoNZA]

These are technical matters you don't understand. From the users perspective you have to understand one thing: you bought a lemon with high probability of faulty SMC controller. Perhaps in US they sell bug-free version, sending old stock to the countries like South Africa.

HA HA HA HA HA.

I'm a Certified Apple Technical Coordinator, I understand perfectly.

But if you could use the English language properly I would maybe bother trying to figure out what you are on about.

 

[sajunky]

I'm a Certified Apple Technical Coordinator, I understand perfectly.

I understand bug is so serious nature, that Apple Technical Coordinator has to be deployed.

 

[SauRoNZA]

****.

 

[[)roi(]]

These are technical matters you don't understand. From the users perspective you have to understand one thing: you bought a lemon with high probability of faulty SMC controller. Perhaps in US they sell bug-free version, sending old stock to the countries like South Africa.

I understand bug is so serious nature, that Apple Technical Coordinator has to be deployed.

Aha now it's clear, by your own admission you don't like Apple; so do yourself a favor and stop trolling the Apple threads.

We certainly wouldn't miss you!

 

[sajunky]

Aha now it's clear, by your own admission you don't like Apple; so do yourself a favor and stop trolling the Apple threads.

My own admission? Where, Mr. Harry Neil, show me...
Maybe I do like Apple, I don't know, but certainly I don't like Crapboyz. This is for sure.

 

[[)roi(]]

My own admission? Where, Mr. Harry Neil, show me...
Maybe I do like Apple, I don't know, but certainly I don't like Crapboyz. This is for sure.

Who the f.ck is Harry Neil? Mmmhhh calling people Crapboyz is certainly not going to win you any credits in the Apple forums.

 

[sajunky]

Who the f.ck is Harry Neil? Mmmhhh calling people Crapboyz is certainly not going to win you any credits in the Apple forums.

Are you receiving credits? What kind?