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klessius

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I've been to Checkers Liquor Store - Kloof Street this morning and found some nice deals (with the card), here is what i got:
  • Private Co 108 3 years: R279
  • Private Co 68 12 years: R349
  • Loch Lomond 18: R750 ( R562.5 with checkers card )
  • Glen Scotia 15: R600 ( R450 with checkers card )
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How's that Toki? It's pretty cheap for a Japanese whisky, and I've not had the best experiences with cheap Japanese whiskies. The Japs under R400 remind me a lot of the blended Scotch whiskies under R200. Harsh, sharp, violent. Not nice.

I really like it. I don't find it overly harsh. Its fruity and sweet, surprising in a whiskey. But very nice.

I cannot wait for this workday to finish. I think I've earned a whiskey or two.

Going to be making an old fashioned with rye whiskey.

I've also got some Aberlour 12 year old, which is fantastic, and Old Pulteney 12 year old. Old Pulteney is... interesting. It is like Laphroaig without the smoke. Salty, medicinal and slightly sour. Probably won't get it again, but interesting to try.
 

TheMightyQuinn

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I see that Makro is listing the Lagavulin 12YO now for R 1350,00.


Seems WB were selling them for R 2790,00 but no stock.


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I am going to a catered cocktail party tonight. It is a friend's B'day.

I have been wondering what I should put in my hip flask for the evening.

Any ideas?

I was considering Rum Rebel...but all this talk of Lagavulin has given me 2nd thoughts now.

I have an unopened Distiller's Edition 2017....

But then again...wouldn't something from Campbeltown be the perfect way to go maybe?

Should I open this one...I mean it is actually quite a special occasion.

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Alrighty. So over the weekend I tried three new whiskies, courtesy of @Luben above.

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First up, the Bell's Special Reserve. So this whisky was one I wasn't REALLY looking forward to, because it's known as a cheapy, and I'm familiar with Bell's. Well, colour me impressed. For the price of the offering I wasn't expecting a whisky this complex and smooth, to be honest. Sweet is obviously upfront, quite strongly, and it can actually be a bit overwhelming if you try to think about it all at once. However, the creamy caramel helps, and if you add a drop of water and let it sit for a few minutes, there's oak, peat and a hint of grass. It's really not bad for the price, and I think I've found my favourite "cheap whisky" in this. If you haven't tried it yet, really, it's worth it!

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Next up was one he sent me just marked "mystery". I poured a bit (still have a tiny bit left), gave it a try. From what I could see the whisky was quite light in colour, which was one of the things that promted me to think it might be a younger whisky. On the nose it was a bit sharp, but sweet and sugary, with a strong hit of honey. I actually thought up front that maybe it was a whisky that was blended with a bit of honey, to be honest, that's how prominent the honey note in this is.

Anyway, on to the taste. The taste mirrored what I smelled. Sweet, caramel, honey. A bit sharp. Harsh was maybe not the right word, but it was one of the whiskies that burned me a bit over the weekend. When I added a drop of water it quieted down a bit, and revealed some fresh hay, and a tiny bit of oak. I also mentioned dessert pears and watermelon here.

When I gave him feedback I told him if I had to guess, it's probably a young Scotch, because of the harshness. Based on the flavour profile I guessed Highlands as my first region, and then Speyside as the second and lastly I told him if it's not a Scotch, I'll guess a Japanese whisky as they're known to try and mimic Scotch flavours. As a "after the fact" I also told him I figured it might be a limited or special bottling, because it's a bit unbalanced for me to be sold as a regular offering. Turns out I was correct on the country and the region. Ben Nevis 19YO. Also, it is a single cask bottling, at cask strength. We both agreed - the whisky is a bit disappointing. It's not very expensive for a 19YO from what I know, but there are a whole range of other whiskies I'll buy before I spend that money on this bottling.

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Lastly, the one I was looking forward to most. I kept it aside and attacked it with a bit of an already made up mind, considering I know what it costs, and what you can get for R30 more. The Ardbeg Wee Beastie. On the pour it was clear it's a young whisky - the colour is light, and the whisky doesn't present the longest legs I've come to associate with Ardbegs. I was all set to have all my predictions proven right - this is a young Ardbeg for the same money, a RIPOFF.

But then not. The nose was a lot of the same Ardbeg, but the smoke was hotter and the sweet notes a bit subdued. Yes, that points to a young Ardbeg 10, but I found myself enjoying it more than I thought I would.

Then the taste. This was where it hit me - this isn't just Ardbeg 10 at half the age. Yes, you can taste the young age in there. It's a bit green, with a hint of hay in the mix, but it's not like it tries to act older. As an aged statement, it means that's what Ardbeg wanted to show. And it works. Man, it works!

There's smoke. Quite a lot of it, actually. Hot smoke, reminding me more of a forest fire than the Ardbeg 10. There's also less of the earthy notes than I get in Ardbeg 10. It's more focused on smoke, less fruity, less sweet, but somehow it still balances, even though the balance is way out. It finishes with more of a fire smoke, reminding me of smoking meats with Mesquite wood chips, than the 10YO. The finish is a bit shorter than I get on the 10YO, but I'm not sure if that's because of the age or because the smoke just takes over and "lingers" a bit shorter. I honestly don't know.

The reviews I've read on this have said that it's mostly a young Ardbeg. Yes, it is. It's a 5YO Ardbeg. But that's not bad. I like that this does not try to be a 10YO in half the time. Instead it does it's own thing, and doesn't trod on the 10YO's playing field. It's not bad. At all. If you pour me this as a darm I'd take it gladly.

But then the question popped into my mind. Will I buy it? I had to think about it for a while, and then I realized the answer is the same - no. I won't. Not at that price. For me, there are cheaper malts that cover the intro to malts, like the Laphroaig Select (which I also happened to taste a week ago), that covers peat better than the Wee Beastie. It's still too aggressive for an intro to peat, but it's not developed enough (for me) to be a sustained drink. It's not bad, at all, but it comes down to this for me - for R30 more I can buy a 10YO. The 10YO is smoother, more balanced, rounder and way more complex on the palate. I like the Wee Beastie, but I don't see where Ardbeg tried to hit the market with it. I just don't.

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Finally, Luben, again, thanks for the options. Next I'll sample the Laphroaig 10YO and then I want to tackle that Ben Nevis again. After you revealed it's a cask strength 19YO I think I need to approach it differently, perhaps with more time, so that's what I'll try.
 

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I really like Bell's special reserve, I have too many bottles open at the moment but it's one of the ones I miss having around more so than many whiskies I have open currently. It's very much a 'I feel like scotch but not sure what' whisky. I probably should just buy a bottle instead of spending 20 minutes looking at whisky trying to decide what I want to drink. lol.

this is a young Ardbeg for the same money, a RIPOFF.

For me, it's in the same category as Johnnie Red. I would not pay for it but I'm glad I got to try it. Not sure why it gets the reviews it does, obviously some people taste it differently but to me it's weak even compared to experimental, NAS, and 5yo offerings out there.
 

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Look I understand the reviews. It's a good whisky. It surprised the hell out of me, to be honest. But it's just priced a bit high for what you get. I know peated whiskies are more expensive (and will continue to rise in price due to the process involved), but I don't see how it should be THAT much more expensive. The most expensive thing in a whisky is time, that's a fact. MASSIVE investment to get it where it needs to go, and that usually reflects in the price. With the Wee Beastie, it doesn't. I'm not saying they should make it cheap, but maybe they should consider it. For that money I'd rather buy others, that's my honest opinion. I feel the same about the An Oa. It's expensive, and not worth the money. It's not bad, it's a nice whisky, but it's not worth the money, if you ask me. Same as how I feel about Glenfiddich 12YO these days, and that's the whisky that really got me going into whiskies.
 

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Hello, fellow whisky folk! So as already stated below, this is just my opinion. However, I am adding a caveat here seeing as I wrote this review some months ago. Even in the short amount of time that has elapsed since then, my opinion may be different from what it was. Also, this review might not be very good, and I might write it slightly differently now, but I am going to copy and paste it exactly as is anyway. I originally posted on Reddit, and like sharing and learning cool new things from people, which can often happen through engagement and replies to posts, so I thought I might as well post here too. There are a handful of others also that I might copy and paste here later on if that's cool. If this kind of post is not allowed or much appreciated here (or if I'm doing it wrong), then let me know.


Whisky Review #1: Bunnahabhain 12

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Bunnahabhain (pronounced Bu-na-ha-venn) 12 years old.

Category: Islay Single Malt Scotch Whisky.


This review, like any other, is a personal opinion and may or may not be shared by anyone. I do not rate or score but only share my thoughts.

Enjoyed neat in a Glencairn glass after resting for about 15 minutes.

Presentation


The packaging is smart and eye-catching without being too much over the top. It would look good sitting on any shelf or in any drinks cupboard. Inside you will find a dark opaque bottle, which usually let’s one assume that the liquid inside should not have been tampered with too much. An assumption which is pleasingly confirmed in clear writing on the label (the same statements are also on the packaging): “NATURAL COLOUR UN CHILLFILTERED”. It also states 46.3% ABV as well as “small batch distilled”, the latter of which is not something that I have seen from many other Scotches. Tasting notes are on the bottle and packaging, and the label mentions the types of casks used. Nice touch. Overall the presentation here is excellent, both of the packaging and the liquid inside.


Form

There is a very robust, full and rich nose here, but well balanced and not too overpowering. The arrival doesn’t hit you immediately and is soft at first contact, but then develops quickly into an intense burst of flavours, which continue to develop for a fair amount of time; giving your palate a journey of sorts. It settles in very nicely into the finish, which lingers long and does not fall flat at all, but stays satisfying and develops further on the palate. The form of this whisky is impressive and showcases the effort and care that has gone into crafting this single malt.


Flavour

There is a beautiful dark and sweet dried fruit smell with maybe a hint of nuts. It is complex, and the sweetness gives way to a more (not unpleasant) sour aroma after a while. Reminiscent of prunes. The taste begins with lovely sherry sweetness and develops into a great spicy flavour which is not bitter and unpleasant in any way. Just a good allspice flavour which I assume comes from good quality casks. Interwoven into this is a high complexity with a combination of characteristics that you also find in the nose: dark fruits, sweetness, along with a subtle earthy and oaky character. The finish continues the development of the flavour with a pleasant aftertaste of nuts and dark chocolate.


Comments and final thoughts

I could not really pick this one out as a “maritime” malt, which is sort of what I was expecting when I bought it. Maybe it’s just my unsophisticated palate and sense of smell, but compared to say, an Old Pulteney 12, I would say that this does not fall under the “tastes of the sea” category. It is, however, not disappointing for me in any way, as this malt has pleasantly surprised and impressed me beyond what I thought it would. It is more expensive than most other 12-year-old single malts I have purchased, but I would say that it is entirely worth it for what you get. In conclusion, this is an exceptionally well crafted and presented single malt that is well worth your time experiencing and is one of the favourites that I have had so far. As good as a standard bottling entry-level malt from a distillery could get, in my opinion.
 

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Are any of the easily available 3 ships whiskys peaty

Three Ships 5 and 10 and the 9yo fino cask master's collection are all Peated, and I'm guessing it's around 16-30ppm, my money would be on 20ppm. It's not like Laphroaig/Ardbeg/Port Charlotte it's more like Ardmore/Glen Moray Peated/Ancnoc Peated/Bowmore.
 

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First up, the Bell's Special Reserve.
I've been slightly intrigued after seeing this around at the shops and online. I only realise now that it's a blended malt, they just use the old fashioned phrase "pure malt" on the label. The fact that it only contains single malts and no grain whiskies must make some difference compared to the regular Bell's blend. From the sound of it I might possibly like this more than Monkey Shoulder. Definitely worth a try one day for the price.
 

Tabarrast

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Also on my shopping list for the future in this category: Naked Grouse. Not expecting anything great from it like Green Label, but it should at least be different and hence worth it, and I've heard it's pretty competent for the price.
 

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Call me a heathen if you must, but I have a soft spot for the Famous Grouse whiskies, even the cheapest one. I find it one of the easier drinking ones. Think I should shop for a bottle again sometime.
 
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