White Domination

Albereth said:
Oh nonsense! You know that the discrimination was based on the belief that there were differences. It wasn't the mere idea that some should have and the others shouldn't. (Although there was some pretty awful laws to entrench that - but that's politicians for you).

And then precisely right - the neo-arpartheid architects are discriminating on nothing. There is no basis whatsoever for their arguement.

If they want to discriminate based on the fact that some people benefited from apartheid then let them quantify that and then discriminate to the extent that we have equality. Oh, sorry that's impossible.

But continue with the arguements from the school of 'two wrongs make a right".
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Could you read my post again? The architects of Apartheid believed they were superior to the black race - in biological terms, superior genetics if you will.

While I don't entirely agree with AA/BEE, the "neo-Apartheid architects" are not discrimination on a biological level.
 
Dominic Rooney said:
Liberals for you. Always getting confused :rolleyes:. Also trying to be portrayed as the saviour of black people by supporting their rights and affirmative action yet they don't realise they're the real racists themselves by supporting such policies.
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Perhaps "racist" in your eyes (technically it is), but an entirely different discrimination than the type which happened in the past.
 
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PostmanPot said:
Could you read my post again? The architects of Apartheid believed they were superior to the black race - in biological terms, superior genetics if you will.

While I don't entirely agree with AA/BEE, the "neo-Apartheid architects" are not discrimination on a biological level.
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Well they kinda are. If you wanna help the poor, the only condition should be, that they are poor.
 
The problem is blacks around the world suffer from a minority complex they always blame the white man for their current situation without looking at themselves , As for the person who said we should help them fine, we will help them after we help ourselves its just how the world works you look after your own people before you look at others, charity after all starts at home.

Unfortunately due to incompetence of most black people the good ones are being stereotyped as well not all of them are retarded although most of us accepted that hypothesis, they cannot get over the fact that they up to date have contributed nothing to the world, grow , advancement and so on the only thing they actually accomplish is mass production of new families which they cannot afford for, If they were the only race on earth then we would still not even be in the stone age,
 
PostmanPot said:
Could you read my post again? The architects of Apartheid believed they were superior to the black race - in biological terms, superior genetics if you will.

While I don't entirely agree with AA/BEE, the "neo-Apartheid architects" are not discrimination on a biological level.
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I did read your post - however, this one of yours is essentially what I was saying. Verword and that lot did discriminate on the basis of a difference. The current lot have denied that there is a difference yet are still discriminating on that difference.

I don't want to get into an arguement about who is better becuase that tends in end in a gun fight.
 
Morgoth said:
Unfortunately due to incompetence of most black people the good ones are being stereotyped as well not all of them are retarded although most of us accepted that hypothesis, they cannot get over the fact that they up to date have contributed nothing to the world, grow , advancement and so on the only thing they actually accomplish is mass production of new families which they cannot afford for, If they were the only race on earth then we would still not even be in the stone age,
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What a disgusting post. I guess it is inevitable on MyBb CA forums that we would end up arguing on a biological level.
 
PostmanPot said:
What a disgusting post. I guess it is inevitable on MyBb CA forums that we would end up arguing on a biological level.
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Every time hard facts about races comes to mind then people about racism, but when it comes to religion then these forums are always open for discussion stop the ass kissing.
 
Albereth said:
I did read your post - however, this one of yours is essentially what I was saying. Verword and that lot did discriminate on the basis of a difference. The current lot have denied that there is a difference yet are still discriminating on that difference.
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No, you have it wrong. The current lot are not discriminating on the difference which the Verwoerd lot discriminated on. The current lot are discriminating because part of being "inferior" under the Verwoerd lot meant that the current lot were denied the opportunities which has helped make our white families better off better off than black families.

If there was never Apartheid, do you think we would have the same amount of impoverished blacks?

Wait, you probably do... *yawn*
 
Morgoth said:
Every time hard facts about races comes to mind then people about racism, but when it comes to religion then these forums are always open for discussion stop the ass kissing.
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What "facts"? Most of them are probably backed by scientific racism.

I can give you a link to black-inspired inventions etc. - would that make you a little less bigoted?
 
vxv said:
Well if you believe in equal opportunity, how many passionate ambitious white males have you employed?
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As none have applied yet, unfortunately zero.

But, I am not employing senior management positions, so maybe that's why. What I do employ for, is highly specialized, with no specific degree that can get you the job. You could probably come in with Matric, actually, if you had the right experience, and attitude.

Maybe my employer is different, I am a white male, as my manager, his manager, and the director he reports to is as well. I don't like that director though, the black one that was in his place before was much more competent, but he resigned of his own choice. But, you need experience and training in the industry to fill those positions, as we all do have, it still has nothing to do with race.

I don't believe in putting someone in a position just because of their skin colour, like I said already. If they can do the job, it's a moot point.

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xtermin8or said:
The CEE commissioned the HSRC to conduct a study in order to illustrate trends in the supply of formal tertiary qaulifications, and while the results of this study is yet to be released, it does conclude that there is very little merit in the assertion that qualified blacks and females are not out there..
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It's not so simple. There are a number of factors that need to be considered. One needs to look at each professional sector and the number of qualified black for that sector. If someone qualifies with a Social Science degree, that does not make them a programmer or doctor. One also needs to look the type of people. You are looking at management positions. Not everyone is suitable for management. It has different requirements to typical professional work. Management is usually based on a number of years of experience as they need to be able to handle companies in good times as well as bad times.

Also a study by TNS research studies has found that white people are more likely to have changed jobs, thereby proving that job-hopping in South Africa is not a unique to black professionals.
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"white people are more likely to have changed jobs". This is obvious as the white people have been employed in the professional sector for far longer when black people. That is not the same thing as having changed jobs in the last x number of years. One also needs to look at the professional sector and not industries such as mining where labourers will stay in the same job for life. AA is presently being applied to the professional sector.

Now these studies disprove the perceptions mentioned in other posts, these perceptions are fuelled by anecdotal evidence, some far from the truth, the studies are based on scientific methodologies, and bear far more weight than little stories
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You still did not answer my questions. Studies need to provide specifics and a single conclusion with unreleased results is a generalisation and cannot be used.
 
PostmanPot said:
What "facts"? Most of them are probably backed by scientific racism.

I can give you a link to black-inspired inventions etc. - would that make you a little less bigoted?
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go ahead give me a link to any black inspired invention ( only one that changed lives that I know off is the golf putting tee!)
O wait no sorry the whip was inspired and modified by them as well
 
Oh, I guess it is time for another xtermin8or gem of a thread. :rolleyes:

And we had been doing so well.
 
Morgoth said:
go ahead give me a link to any black inspired invention ( only one that changed lives that I know off is the golf putting tee!)
O wait no sorry the whip was inspired and modified by them as well
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http://www.ritesofpassage.org/inventors.htm.

Looks like the amount of black inventors is relative to the amount of blacks who were given big opportunities from say, 1800 - 1950... :rolleyes:
 
Bismuth said:
As none have applied yet, unfortunately zero.

But, I am not employing senior management positions, so maybe that's why. What I do employ for, is highly specialized, with no specific degree that can get you the job. You could probably come in with Matric, actually, if you had the right experience, and attitude.

Maybe my employer is different, I am a white male, as my manager, his manager, and the director he reports to is as well. I don't like that director though, the black one that was in his place before was much more competent, but he resigned of his own choice. But, you need experience and training in the industry to fill those positions, as we all do have, it still has nothing to do with race.

I don't believe in putting someone in a position just because of their skin colour, like I said already. If they can do the job, it's a moot point.

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I sincerely believe you, however I know that white male cv's drop of the list or get lost in the pile. It is also seen as an offense to submit a white male CV (It's almost racist). :)

+1 for your approach, and hope you have a strategic post soon to further your sense of equality.
 
Morgoth said:
18 inventions now lets get a list of the white ones, Thomas Edison > all of them together out of those 18 I counted about 7 that was life changing / revolutionary.
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Commendable nonetheless, considering while they invented those things they/their race was probably being oppressed!

So now we know, Morgoth, blacks have invented things other than the golf tee. :D
 
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