White skills returning for 2010

jontyB said:
No. The point of BEE is to shift wealth to the majority. Cyril and Tokyo (and many many others) are using BEE to enrich themselves to insanely high levels. I am saying that is wrong. It is abuse of a system meant for something far greater. Period.
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Bribery, nepotism, favoritism, patronage, graft, and embezzlement are trademarks of politicians world-wide, this hardly has anything to do with BEE.
 
raoul said:
Bribery, nepotism, favoritism, patronage, graft, and embezzlement are trademarks of politicians world-wide, this hardly has anything to do with BEE.
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Now which is it? Are Cyril and Tokyo Billionaire Businessmen (thanks to BEE use/abuse) or Politicians????
 
Tokyo and Cyril were politicians and then became businessmen and if the rumours are true - Cyril is moving back into mainstream politics - so that's a bit confusing - but someone like Patrice Motsepe is a businessman
 
raoul said:
Bribery, nepotism, favoritism, patronage, graft, and embezzlement are trademarks of politicians world-wide, this hardly has anything to do with BEE.
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Um do those politicians still have jobs (and how many, ratio and proportion?) I think not (unlike here where it is a cv requirement.)
 
the main reason for people leaving the country is that they have the opportunity to leave and are now accepted ( not welcomed ) all over the world - it is their choice to whether to return or not, China, India, Brazil, even the UK have lots of people living and working outside their countries and it's nowhere near an issue as it is here, I know lots of non-whites who have left for greener pastures ( more money mainly ) who have set up their lives in those countries and don't want to come back - it is a choice - that is the beauty of a democratic government
 
The point is people aren't only leaving for purely economic reasons. They're also being driven out by government incompetence with regards to issues such as crime and AA.
 
incompetence with regard to AA, don't worry the govt is working on stricter enforcement of that -

show me the proof that people leave the country and take a pay cut and I will believe that people do not leave because of money
 
Cost of living is higher overseas, you therefore can't compare incomes directly, but plenty of people have taken a "lifestyle cut", at least in the economic sense.
 
xtermin8or said:
incompetence with regard to AA, don't worry the govt is working on stricter enforcement of that -

show me the proof that people leave the country and take a pay cut and I will believe that people do not leave because of money
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stricter enforcement of the AA or of the Incompetence? ;) IMO it will be latter, thats the problem!
 
so it seems that everyone here wants to see stricter enforcement of AA - my how this forum has changed
 
I was kind of referring to the fact that incompetence is so common place and accepted that's its close to being enforceable, standard employment practice. It was a snide comment
 
xtermin8or said:
so it seems that everyone here wants to see stricter enforcement of AA - my how this forum has changed
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Anyone capable of rational thought and can think past the here and now would be against AA. Race based policies (no matter how well intentioned) are a sure way to build a dysfunctional society. At some stage in the future the people who mater in SA will realize this.
 
xtermin8or said:
purposefully ironic - I don't understand
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Well, signatures are often used to display personal mottoes or statements that the owner agrees with. In your case you have "TO THE VICTOR GO THE SPOILS" but often complain about things like colonialism. It seems ironic to me. I was just interested if it was intentional or unintentional.
 
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