White students 'overlooked'

[NewsFlash]

I don't have complete list with me, but there have been quite a few, many of them faced internal disciplinary action

What a joke, Internal disciplinary action for R100000.00 fraud and corruption ( See thread on Icasa boss) Crime pays if you are in cahoots with the ANC. That's why crime the stats and murder is so high.

 

[Nod]

I don't have complete list with me, but there have been quite a few, many of them faced internal disciplinary action

And quite a few whistle blowers got fired, because they pointed out corruption, like the teacher in Mamparalanga that pointed out the test paper fraud 2/3 years ago.

 

[Skeptik]

I don't have complete list with me, but there have been quite a few, many of them faced internal disciplinary action

What about all the Inkata prisoners who didn't get parole? Again back to tribes - they are not the favoured tribe ...

the Apartheid government made those distinctions for us - and all we need to so is look at who was previously disadvantaged to know who fits into the designated groups - simple really

So the ANC government needs to use APARTHEID LAWS based on race to implement current policy, despite denouncing them?

 

[NewsFlash]

the Apartheid government made those distinctions for us -

So they were right and justified in doing so as you use the same arguments today.

 

[Nod]

There is an imbalance in wealth/employment between groups

the Apartheid government made those distinctions for us - ...

And the current government still make that distinction. Nothing changed, the target is just different.

 

[xtermin8or]

All governments are corrupt, its a fact!. Democracy is only good *IF* the voting public UNDERSTAND how it works.... The majority of SA public DONT know the basic principles of a democratic governance.
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That is true, RichardP, power corrupts, and in no way have I said that the current Government is not corrupt, but there is action against it.

The electoral system we use of proportional representation is fairly simple, and I think that while all the intricacies of the system might not be understood, people know that they vote for the party they want to run their country, city, or community

BTW - would you say the US is a democracy that works, with a very low turnout of voters in their elections and even less of an understanding of how their electoral system works - not sure where you stand on this

 

[NewsFlash]

My final say here Xtermi8tor! You and your government are racists with racists policies. You do not use a wrong to fix a wrong as no one benefits, only the ANC elite few. Ditto

 

[xtermin8or]

And the current government still make that distinction. Nothing changed, the target is just different.

Target ? - there is no target - merely a levelling of the playing fields - because of decades of discrimination the current government is forced to take corrective action - Whites believe they are being targetted because they are now being treated as equal and not special

 

[Skeptik]

And the current government still make that distinction. Nothing changed, the target is just different.

It's called revenge politics.

The ANC is dominated by the Xhosa tribe. It is tribal tradition to have centralised power under an aloof leader who does not respond well to criticism. Not much different to communism really. Tribal tradition is also to dominate other tribes - as is happening.

 

[xtermin8or]

My final say here Xtermi8tor! You and your government are racists with racists policies. You do not use a wrong to fix a wrong as no one benefits, only the ANC elite few. Ditto

and my final say to you then, Newsflash, you and your brethren in this country bemoan the current situation in the country as they are bitter that everyone is equal, they are racists, longing for a time when they were in charge and enjoyed all the benefits of this country, they can't accept a black government, black boss, or even a black neighbour.

 

[xtermin8or]

It's called revenge politics.

The ANC is dominated by the Xhosa tribe. It is tribal tradition to have centralised power under an aloof leader who does not respond well to criticism. Not much different to communism really. Tribal tradition is also to dominate other tribes - as is happening.

And this is beign practiced by a man who was schooled in England and has been criticised for not understanding his own culture, there have been numerous incidents where he has been frowned upon for behaving like an English gentlemen and not a Xhosa prince

 

[RichardP]

Target ? - there is no target - merely a levelling of the playing fields - because of decades of discrimination the current government is forced to take corrective action - Whites believe they are being targetted because they are now being treated as equal and not special

BZZZT! ... Non Blacks are being Marginalised. The playing field is not leveled and is no-where near level. How many White vs Black tax payers are there ? You will notice that SA is run by the black government SPONSORED by technology that is clearly not of African orign. Why bite the hand that feeds?

 

[Skeptik]

Target ? - there is no target - merely a levelling of the playing fields - because of decades of discrimination the current government is forced to take corrective action - Whites believe they are being targetted because they are now being treated as equal and not special

Have you considered the view that white people put across across rather than the one you hold to be true.

That is they believe apartheid is still here and is being implemented against them.

In effect the young people leaving school are now unequal and can never aspire to join the airforce, national airline, navy (see quote below) or any other government run body based simply on their apartheid 'racial designation'.

Are they supposed to be happy about that?

There are apparently one or two very senior affirmative officers in the Navy HR division who are, or were until recently, visiting courses and telling white, coloured and Indian students that they cannot understand why they take the trouble to attend these courses because as they have no further career in the navy because they are not black.

Rear Admiral Chris Bennett
SA Navy (Retired)
Tokai

 

[NameOfBeast]

again I will try to explain this - as people we are the same - same capabilities, same faults, some are lazy, corrupt others are capable, and intelligent - across all race groups - the problem is that the injustice of the past has left different race groups on different levels in terms of economics this is the only difference - and this difference is being adressed through AA

Oh, wow! Thanks for the condescending explanation! All is crystal clear now. Race-exists-only-as-a-social-construct? And your proof of this quite astounding assertion?

 

[Bageloo]

if south africa was in actual fact a true democracy the ANC would''ve been out of office 2/3 years ago, licking their wounds and tightening up loose ends to try and regain office!

If South Africa is not a true democracy, what system of govt is it then?

why should young white south africans have to suffer for the sins of their fathers?

According to the statistics, they are not suffering. Get that through you head!

 

[xtermin8or]

@ Richard without having the stats in front of me, i would be hesistant to say who pays more taxes white or black - but as blacks are the majority of workers ( even with the high unemployment figure ) i would hazard a guess that they are in the majority when it comes to paying tax

I do not understand what you mean by sponsored technology not of African origin - are you then suggesting that since most software is written by people of Indian and Chinese descent that the USA and others should not use it or do I understand you completely wrong - because that argument makes no sense at all

 

[xtermin8or]

There are apparently one or two very senior affirmative officers in the Navy HR division who are, or were until recently, visiting courses and telling white, coloured and Indian students that they cannot understand why they take the trouble to attend these courses because as they have no further career in the navy because they are not black. - this is merely a rumour with no basis

 

[xtermin8or]

Oh, wow! Thanks for the condescending explanation! All is crystal clear now. Race-exists-only-as-a-social-construct? And your proof of this quite astounding assertion?

what else is race if not a social construct ?

 

[a-person]

If South Africa is not a true democracy, what system of govt is it then?

According to the statistics, they are not suffering. Get that through you head!

So have you forgotten the title of this thread or what? And don't take my comments apart if you can't read what comes before them!!

White people are CURRENTLY DISADVANTAGED, look how many have left for other shores because people is this country DO NOT get hired on MERIT. They get hired because of politically motivated means.

 

[a-person]

Bageloo.... in a true democracy, do you think the government would still exist if they didn't act on what their promises where? Do you think msimang would still have a job after the farce she was in Canada, or zuma would still hold any position in the ANC?

Politicians in Britain will resign THEMSELVES with impunity if they are caught doing something untoward. Except our politicians version of untoward is rape and theirs is looking at a female co-worker with lust in their eyes.

A government built on loyalty is a government that does as it pleases.