White students 'overlooked'

Should black kids from wealthier families be considered disadvantaged?

  • Yes

    Votes: 5 4.9%
  • No

    Votes: 96 93.2%
  • Unsure

    Votes: 2 1.9%

  • Total voters
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xtermin8or

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That is why this country and the rest of Africa where you got your training to "think" is such a mess! Crime corruption....etc

yes and your ancestors done a much better job of running the country, even though they used virtual slave labour, and catered only for a very small minority of the population - they still ran the country into financial ruin - the ANC inherited a bankrupt country - talk about corruption, those fogies were so corrupt, many of them are still living off the money they stole out of state coffers - just one example - Wouter Basson - an agent of the Apartheid Government -

Once again I will say at least this Government acknowledges corruption and takes action against it
 

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Ahh Now suddenly you admit race is the issue and we are nor deemed equal as you pointed out in the contrary already. What education you had (stole) I mean you already stated the terrorists taught you to "think"

again I will try to explain this - as people we are the same - same capabilities, same faults, some are lazy, corrupt others are capable, and intelligent - across all race groups - the problem is that the injustice of the past has left different race groups on different levels in terms of economics this is the only difference - and this difference is being adressed through AA
 

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yes and your ancestors done a much better job of running the country, even though they used virtual slave labour, and catered only for a very small minority of the population - they still ran the country into financial ruin - the ANC inherited a bankrupt country - talk about corruption, those fogies were so corrupt, many of them are still living off the money they stole out of state coffers - just one example - Wouter Basson - an agent of the Apartheid Government -

Once again I will say at least this Government acknowledges corruption and takes action against it

Acknowledgement of corruption? By allowing those who practice it to throw little parties in jail and/or live in the hospital wing due to 'hayfever'?

South Africa wasn't bankrupt, not ever. However it is now because nearly 1 000 000 of I like to call SKILLED labourers (not people who are given a place without merit and only due to skin colour) have left SA. That is why we are bankrupt.

Take a hike 'boss'
 

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I see no logic whatsoever in your argument, the use of race is of paramount importance to understanding the reason for the legislation - If the Apartheid government mistreated all South Africans, then yes I would agree the term South African could be used instead of race - but that is not what happened - please try to understand - I have tried to explaion this concept as simply as i can for you
There is no race in logic.

What you are implying is that South Africans with a light skin must distribute wealth and land to those with a darker skin. Darker skinned citizens must also have jobs in preference to better qualified light-skinned ones.

Inherent in that argument is that there is a difference, despite your assertion that there is not. I await your answer.
 

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yes and your ancestors done a much better job of running the country, even though they used virtual slave labour, and catered only for a very small minority of the population - they still ran the country into financial ruin - the ANC inherited a bankrupt country - talk about corruption, those fogies were so corrupt, many of them are still living off the money they stole out of state coffers - just one example - Wouter Basson - an agent of the Apartheid Government -

Once again I will say at least this Government acknowledges corruption and takes action against it

I noted. The action is to re-employ the foggies as they (Your Government) do not have the brains, expertise or inclination to do the job themselves. Now tell us about the secret actions, You refer to Yengeni, XZuma or what other actions can you enlighten us with?
 
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they used virtual slave labour,
Did they have computers? They use the low class labour as slaves as at that time they were good for nothing else. (Maybe even today) You now also use "slaves" to do the menial labour as who else will do it. Do not come with the free choice joke as they have no choice due to your scale of economics. That's why crime is so high! You're just like the Christians on this site as they were lashed and labeled as following their GOD blindly in any regard. I see and take note how you follow yours. :D
 

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There is no race in logic.

What you are implying is that South Africans with a light skin must distribute wealth and land to those with a darker skin. Darker skinned citizens must also have jobs in preference to better qualified light-skinned ones.

Inherent in that argument is that there is a difference, despite your assertion that there is not. I await your answer.

the act clearly states that suitably qualified people from the designated groups must be given equal opportunities for employment - like I have stated before the only difference between the race groups is the economic circumstances they were in when Apartheid ended - as the unemployment figures show - we are still a long way from creating a balance of that situation.
 

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With the 'Bush' mentality, SA is going to repeat history.... Let bygones be bygones - the past is wrong. Pull together and move forward!

All governments are corrupt, its a fact!. Democracy is only good *IF* the voting public UNDERSTAND how it works.... The majority of SA public DONT know the basic principles of a democratic governance.
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SA might have been bankrupt, but how has the new governance changed this? .. they have made it worse! .. interest rates, cost of living, crime, social problems, corruption, incompetence.

The government has you wrapped around their finger xtermin8r.... They WANT you to think they are rooting out corruption. Parties in prisions, Zuma aquitted, Theives walk out of C-Max! 'Insufficent Evicence' ... LOL! you really are in the dark! The carpet for brushing things under is BIG.

The government is in the buisness for 1... and only 1 thing! .. to make Money. thats it. The SA public are not part of the agenda, they are casualties.
 

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I noted. The action is to re-employ the foggies as they (Your Government) do not have the brains, expertise or inclination to do the job themselves. Now tell us about the secret actions, You refer to Yengeni, XZuma or what other actions can you enlighten us with?

there have been dozens of internal disciplinary actions and even criminal action against corrupt officials in Government Departments, it was this government that introduced legislation to protect whistleblowers and every government department has call centers where you can give tip-offs anonymously - those are actions - more than the previous regieme was ever willing to take
 

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Acknowledgement of corruption? By allowing those who practice it to throw little parties in jail and/or live in the hospital wing due to 'hayfever'?

South Africa wasn't bankrupt, not ever. However it is now because nearly 1 000 000 of I like to call SKILLED labourers (not people who are given a place without merit and only due to skin colour) have left SA. That is why we are bankrupt.

Take a hike 'boss'

no need to respond to this kind of foolishness, check your facts, the country was highly indebted when the ANC took over in 1994 - these debts have been paid off, in fact President Mbeki, pledged a huge amount of money for social development recently
 

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there have been dozens of internal disciplinary actions and even criminal action against corrupt officials in Government Departments, it was this government that introduced legislation to protect whistleblowers and every government department has call centers where you can give tip-offs anonymously - those are actions - more than the previous regieme was ever willing to take

Please give us a list of all known corrupt Xofficials currently serving for more than 3 months. (out of a 20 Year sentence) Seems to me Your Govenment goons makes crimes pay (Unless you are white, thry do not get the chance :D )
 

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can you ever stop talking about the previous regime? and peeps lets get this straight, if south africa was in actual fact a true democracy the ANC would''ve been out of office 2/3 years ago, licking their wounds and tightening up loose ends to try and regain office!

the previous regime has nothing to do with this forum or life in the moment. getting back to the topic, why should young white south africans have to suffer for the sins of their fathers?
 

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the act clearly states that suitably qualified people from the designated groups must be given equal opportunities for employment - like I have stated before the only difference between the race groups is the economic circumstances they were in when Apartheid ended - as the unemployment figures show - we are still a long way from creating a balance of that situation.
Again you answer by referring to difference.
"RACE GROUPS"
"DESIGNATED GROUPS"
"CREATING A BALANCE"

So if there is an imbalance in wealth/employment between "groups" what will happen?

How do we determine who belongs to each group? (Pencil test, apartheid desgnation, parents - which one?)

Perhaps the answer one of tribes... i.e. The biggest tribe must be in charge of everything ..(?)
 

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Please give us a list of all known corrupt Xofficials currently serving for more than 3 months. (out of a 20 Year sentence) Seems to me Your Govenment goons makes crimes pay (Unless you are white, thry do not get the chance :D )

I don't have complete list with me, but there have been quite a few, many of them faced internal disciplinary action
 

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It's funny that AA doesn't take nationality into account. You can employ an African-American, and still get the "points" for AA, or even somebody from India (if you're brave).
 

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no need to respond to this kind of foolishness, check your facts, the country was highly indebted when the ANC took over in 1994 - these debts have been paid off, in fact President Mbeki, pledged a huge amount of money for social development recently

Due to sanctions f@@l and then paid of with begging and contributions from countries and people that had respect for Madiba. Where is all the taxes going and new infrastructure now? Apart from private investment the country has a degraded public sector, no medical or proper school system and neither any bright future.
 

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Again you answer by referring to difference.
"RACE GROUPS"
"DESIGNATED GROUPS"
"CREATING A BALANCE"

So if there is an imbalance in wealth/employment between "groups" what will happen?

How do we determine who belongs to each group? (Pencil test, apartheid desgnation, parents - which one?)

Perhaps the answer one of tribes... i.e. The biggest tribe must be in charge of everything ..(?)

There is an imbalance in wealth/employment between groups

the Apartheid government made those distinctions for us - and all we need to so is look at who was previously disadvantaged to know who fits into the designated groups - simple really
 
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