Whites cannot criticize blacks?

Albereth said:
Is this true? Really a fact?
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A skin-head was interviewed on C&I's Gang-Land and he said that whatever you tell him he will always see black people as sub-human. Now that's how white people saw black people when they first arrived in Africa. This is widely demonstrated in King Leopold's Ghost. At some point he writes about how a group of black people where taken to Belgium & shown in a Zoo with some sign equalling do not feed the animals hanged.
 
larrychang said:
A skin-head was interviewed on C&I's Gang-Land and he said that whatever you tell him he will always see black people as sub-human. Now that's how white people saw black people when they first arrived in Africa. This is widely demonstrated in King Leopold's Ghost. At some point he writes about how a group of black people where taken to Belgium & shown in a Zoo with some sign equalling do not feed the animals hanged.
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Do you have a link?

Look, 200 years ago, the citizens of Africa were running around the veld with loincloths on doing what were regarded as very primitive things. Compared to Europe, they weren't at a great evolutionary stage.
 
Sackboy said:
Do you have a link?

Look, 200 years ago, the citizens of Africa were running around the veld with loincloths on doing what were regarded as very primitive things. Compared to Europe, they weren't at a great evolutionary stage.
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Unfortunately that is the root of the whole racism argument. But who's to say that living in a kraal with lots of wives and cows was not as good a life as a European lawyer with his horse drawn carriage and wine collection.
 
Sackboy said:
Do you have a link?

Look, 200 years ago, the citizens of Africa were running around the veld with loincloths on doing what were regarded as very primitive things. Compared to Europe, they weren't at a great evolutionary stage.
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What link?
Read King Leopold's Ghost or watch the History Channel doccie based on the book!
The best I can do is get you the page numbers
because I still have the book. I cannot believe you are trying to justify the way those people where treated at a time when the world was dividing up Africa amongst themselves like Africans were of no consequence then or in future!
 
Sensorei said:
Unfortunately that is the root of the whole racism argument. But who's to say that living in a kraal with lots of wives and cows was not as good a life as a European lawyer with his horse drawn carriage and wine collection.
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Correct in one.
We would need to go back and explore the science and the thinking of the time to explain why people were so cruel.
 
larrychang said:
It's interesting you make a distinction between being referred as a second rate citizen and racial name calling. It is in fact exactly because white people have always seen other races as below them (and seen blacks as less than animals) that those races are deeply offended by name calling by white people.

See the link?
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Ok, a bit of a generalisation but I think I see what you're getting at. A big ol' chip on the shoulder?

I'm simply saying that names like "cracker", "honky", etc. etc. bounce off every white person I know like water off a duck's back. Sticks 'n' bloody stones! I've heard one or two of the SA variants but in all honesty, haven't really bothered to research it all that much.

Tell me I'm a second rate citizen in my own country however, and it's a different story. The former, from both ends of the spectrum, often ridicules physical attributes of the other party/race while the latter is more of an issue of equality and that's what really matters as far as I'm concerned.

I fail to see how some people's inability to realise they're living in the 21st century should make it any more or less offensive and that's not to say I condone it either.
 
Nothing wrong with being proud of who you are.
Nothing wrong in admitting our ancestors did some things we would never do.

Remember that the world has changed and as we go along we discover some things we accept/ed as the norm is/was actually bad for us.

Then we adjust the norm to what is acceptable for that time/place. Thats what evolution is about.

Nothing to feel guilty about.:D
 
larrychang said:
A skin-head was interviewed on C&I's Gang-Land and he said that whatever you tell him he will always see black people as sub-human. Now that's how white people saw black people when they first arrived in Africa. This is widely demonstrated in King Leopold's Ghost. At some point he writes about how a group of black people where taken to Belgium & shown in a Zoo with some sign equalling do not feed the animals hanged.
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And we're all skin heads too? Interesting.
 
Sackboy said:
It means white scum, like the foam on an ocean wave. Apparently white people came like that and should leave the same way.
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Interesting bed-time stories you've had :rolleyes:
Sackboy said:
What does 'n****r' mean?
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Albereth said:
I don't know. Those little star thingies don't make up any words that we speak here on earth.
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Think it is short for nigerian :D
Sackboy said:
You didn't answer my question. We could also ask what the 'K' word means literally. To end the point, it doesn't matter what the word is. It is the offence taken that matters most.
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It still is used to imply an ungodly person... as in the oxford dictionarys meaning...
I occasionally use it on whites, colourds, indians & blacks... especially when they drive k*k.. am I racist in using it.. though its nothing to do with colour?
Hell... rightly so... I know of many occasions where people could say the same for me... so what.. though I know I shouldn't... as some would interpret it differently :o
rebel998 said:
Nothing wrong with being proud of who you are.
Nothing wrong in admitting our ancestors did some things we would never do.

Remember that the world has changed and as we go along we discover some things we accept/ed as the norm is/was actually bad for us.

Then we adjust the norm to what is acceptable for that time/place. Thats what evolution is about.

Nothing to feel guilty about.:D
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Very well said :)
 
Flanders said:
Exactly what I was going to say - there aren't any! We laugh at these names because tomorrow we're going to wake up white and you know what...we're ok with that!


Look, call us unequal or second rate or something to that effect and you're going to be staring down the barrel of white anger but as far as racially-based slander goes, it's really a non-issue as far as I'm concerned.
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YOU might laugh at the names, but the whole AWB groupies and paranoid whiteys get suspicious over anything black people do :) we might laugh over what we're called, but there are still a huge majority of people that believe in Uhuru, or the idea that black people are going to kill all the white people in the country. do we laugh about that? :D

today we're pissed off at the idea of BEE and the ANC, but a few years ago a lot of people were fed up with apartheid and unequal rights. maybe when we've had the ANC abuse white peopel for 20 years certain words would start stinging a little more, or when we're called words that mean nothing literally, but in a harsh tone, it might hurt.

words and books never hurt anyone, it's the intention and meaning behind them :)
 
I still say:
The K word Is not a colour but an attitude.

If the shoe fits.
 
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