Why DStv cannot offer individual channels

[PaulGherkin]

LOL insults, the mark of an adult argument.
F1tv is one subscription for a single championship that runs a whole year. It will cost you around R120 a month. Motogp is 3-4 times that price.
So now a motorsport fan have 2 motorsport championships for close to R500. Where is the Dakar, the le mans the touring cars and the rest that dstv offer for a motorsport fan?
You want to watch rugby or only Curriecup?

As I saw you threw the first insult.
However we know now that you're a MultiChoice supporter and a sports addict.

 

[DreamKing]

why you have to pay to watch tv?

you have nothing to do?

 

[sand_man]

Always have to have an excuse, and a lame one at that.

They can do it. They simply won't!

^This

We had a business subscription for many years. The channels on this account were personalized to our needs and hand picked... so f...k em..

 

[elf_lord_ZC5]

LOL insults, the mark of an adult argument.
F1tv is one subscription for a single championship that runs a whole year. It will cost you around R120 a month. Motogp is 3-4 times that price.
So now a motorsport fan have 2 motorsport championships for close to R500. Where is the Dakar, the le mans the touring cars and the rest that dstv offer for a motorsport fan?
You want to watch rugby or only Curriecup?

Insults, no mate, that is the plain truth. You have All Sports on your menu. I am not interested in your All Sports. So it is not on my menu. So I am not going to walk thru your door. You failed - explain that to your superiors at DSTV.

 

[Jean Claude Vaaldamme]

They have other channels like Mnet that likely cost a pretty penny.

SA rugby is arguably the strongest and most popular it has ever been in the country, it has broken into new demographics. There are literally millions of people who would want to watch that content. Instead of finding a way to tap into this new market of potential subscribers, Multichoice has done nothing but try sell the same shyte they have been selling for 30 years.

And it hasn't worked. At a time when the Boks are at the strongest they have ever been and are watched by so many people that the politicians are getting involved to try and open it up, Multichoice, the people who stand to make the most amount of money are losing money.

If that isn't a signal that their pricing and product line up is broken, then nothing would be.

Yes 90% of all these new and old SA rugby fans will only pay a single rugby subscription for Springbok games. Thus they will only subscribe for 2-3 months per year. Will that cover the broadcasting rights and all the salaries and expenses for the year?
And the smaller competitions like Currie cup, URC will just not be available on SA tv for the big rugby fans, as there will not be enough money coming in to broadcast it.

 

[Bad Ballie]

Then hopefully we will see the end of DSTV for good in the near future as if becomes less and less relevant in a technological world. BYE!

 

[elf_lord_ZC5]

Yes 90% of all these new and old SA rugby fans will only pay a single rugby subscription for Springbok games. Thus they will only subscribe for 2-3 months per year. Will that cover the broadcasting rights and all the salaries and expenses for the year?
And the smaller competitions like Currie cup, URC will just not be available on SA tv for the big rugby fans, as there will not be enough money coming in to broadcast it.

So whose problem is that, ours or DSTV's, - , definitely not our problem, if you price yourself out of the market.

 

[Hush9300]

Your half baked, baseless twatwaffle - adult - please.

F1 TV is one you should be familiar with, in India there are others, in China as well, but that is a bridge to far for you.

F1 TV is not a bundled option and they're selling their own product directly to the consumer. They're not selling a license to a linear broadcaster.

If you were to individually pay for every sport and league that DStv offers you would be well over the subscription of the entire bouquet.

Now, I'm no fan of DStv or linear TV but it is a bit disingenuous to sit there and mock the value proposition of DStv especially as it pertains to sport. You'd be hard pressed to find better value in the rest of the world.

That said, DStv has to make some changes because consumer viewing has evolved. Another poster mentioned pay-per-view and those daily, weekly and monthly passes that Sky offered. This is something they should look into.

 

[elf_lord_ZC5]

F1 TV is not a bundled option and they're selling their own product directly to the consumer. They're not selling a license to a linear broadcaster.

If you were to individually pay for every sport and league that DStv offers you would be well over the subscription of the entire bouquet.

Now, I'm no fan of DStv or linear TV but it is a bit disingenuous to sit there and mock the value proposition of DStv especially as it pertains to sport. You'd be hard pressed to find better value in the rest of the world.

That said, DStv has to make some changes because consumer viewing has evolved. Another poster mentioned pay-per-view and those daily, weekly and monthly passes that Sky offered. This is something they should look into.

DSTV, has priced themselves out of the market, because they are chained to the Sports Bodies, that have priced themselves out of the market, the building, is collapsing. So time to move begore the rubble falls on their heads. Not interested in "bundles" - their time has past.

Understand this clearly, if you charge more than what I am prepared to pay, then I do without. If I can afford F1 TV, but not cricket, then I take the F1 TV and enkoy.

If I cannot afford a AMG Benz, I am not going to buy one. A Polo Vivo, is just as serviceble.

 

[Hush9300]

DSTV, has priced themselves out of the market, because they are chained to the Sports Bodies, that have priced themselves out of the market, the building, is collapsing. So time to move begore the rubble falls on their heads. Not interested in "bundles" - their time has past.

Understand this clearly, if you charge more than what I am prepared to pay, then I do without. If I can afford F1 TV, but not cricket, then I take the F1 TV and enkoy.

If I cannot afford a AMG Benz, I am not going to buy one. A Polo Vivo, is just as serviceble.

What a weird rant... Nobody is forcing you or anybody to subscribe to DStv or to buy anything out of your price range. What we are debating is the value proposition of DStv in it's current form (which for an ever shrinking consumer base is topnotch) and the shift in consumers viewing habits.

Linear TV has had a slow puncture for a long time and it is a phenomenon all broadcasters are struggling with, not just DStv. Millennials and Gen Z couldn't give a rats ass about paying to watch sport or entertainment packages subsidising sport or vice versa.

 

[abruton]

It still is the Hotel's choice what dish to offer. Stupid analogy.

Either DSTV has to change with the times and clients requests or slowly die. My money is on it being inflexible, ignoring clients and dying.

They should fire the old fashioned ICT head and board...

 

[SubtleBeast]

Thinus been smoking the DSTV salad again?

 

[elf_lord_ZC5]

What a weird rant... Nobody is forcing you or anybody to subscribe to DStv or to buy anything out of your price range. What we are debating is the value proposition of DStv in it's current form (which for an ever shrinking consumer base is topnotch) and the shift in consumers viewing habits.

Linear TV has had a slow puncture for a long time and it is a phenomenon all broadcasters are struggling with, not just DStv. Millennials and Gen Z couldn't give a rats ass about paying to watch sport or entertainment packages subsidising sport or vice versa.

Really, so what you are saying, is, you walk intothe DSTV showroom, with enough money to buy a Jimny, but DSTV only have a AMG Gelandewagen on the floor, so you must now make a down payment on the AMG, instead of walking out with a fully paid for Jimny. Eish!!

Instead of just turning around and walking out.

 

[elf_lord_ZC5]

Thinus been smoking the DSTV salad again?

Would seem so - credibilty is a fast evaporating thing, these days it seems.

 

[Hush9300]

It still is the Hotel's choice what dish to offer. Stupid analogy.

Either DSTV has to change with the times and clients requests or slowly die. My money is on it being inflexible, ignoring clients and dying.

They should fire the old fashioned ICT head and board...

It is not a stupid analogy. If the hotel is getting a discount on bundled meats, fruits and veggies then they're going to include it in the buffet. What else are they're supposed to do? Throw it away or donate it...

The problem linear broadcasters have is that their sport packages can no longer subsidize their entertainment packages because the entertainment side is being offered on OTT services for a fraction of the cost while churning out originals at a rate of knots.

Linear Tv is going to die because at some point cost of acquiring content, maintaining infrastructure and other overheads is going to be more than the revenue from a shrinking consumer base. DStv is at that point already.

Content owners like the EPL and La Liga are going to go the way of F1 TV and MotoGP. At that point consumers will cry about the price of à la carte viewing.

 

[BBSA]

Why not have the best of both worlds with both buffet and à la carte?

Why not provide options for people who are only into one or two sports?

 

[elf_lord_ZC5]

It is not a stupid analogy. If the hotel is getting a discount on bundled meats, fruits and veggies then they're going to include it in the buffet. What else are they're supposed to do? Throw it away or donate it...

The problem linear broadcasters have is that their sport packages can no longer subsidize their entertainment packages because the entertainment side is being offered on OTT services for a fraction of the cost while churning out originals at a rate of knots.

Linear Tv is going to die because at some point cost of acquiring content, maintaining infrastructure and other overheads is going to be more than the revenue from a shrinking consumer base. DStv is at that point already.

Content owners like the EPL and La Liga are going to go the way of F1 TV and MotoGP. At that point consumers will cry about the price of à la carte viewing.

No, then people will make a choice, F1 TV or EPL , and the one who loses out, is going to cry, big crocodile tears, like DSTV is now.

 

[The Gilded]

So I really want a 400 gram sirloin steak (rugby) but I don't care for the starter (CNN) or the dessert (One Magic). I also refuse to pay R900 for a whole buffet when I only wanted a sirloin steak. What do I do? I go to a steak house where I can have a steak and a beer for R100.

Unfortunately, the hotel has made a deal with the local butcher which provides them with sirloin steak exclusively. What do I do? Well, I certainly don't sneak into the kitchen and steal a steak. I decide to go without a sirloin steak and get a Steers burger (Premier League/PSL on Showmax) instead. Other options include Chinese food (StarTimes).

The loser here is not me as I don't go hungry but rather the greedy hotel which is about to close down.

 

[Hush9300]

No, then people will make a choice, F1 TV or EPL , and the one who loses out, is going to cry, big crocodile tears, like DSTV is now.

The cost of choice will be prohibitive. Without broadcasters around - which is bound to happen - à la carte offerings becomes the sole financier for production costs. This now has to be passed on to the consumer.

It's easy with a series production or a movie because filming and editing timelines are finite but it becomes infinitely more expensive and intricate when it comes to sport which is offered week in week out for 80-90% of the year. Be careful what you wish for.

 

[elf_lord_ZC5]

It is not a stupid analogy. If the hotel is getting a discount on bundled meats, fruits and veggies then they're going to include it in the buffet. What else are they're supposed to do? Throw it away or donate it...

The problem linear broadcasters have is that their sport packages can no longer subsidize their entertainment packages because the entertainment side is being offered on OTT services for a fraction of the cost while churning out originals at a rate of knots.

Linear Tv is going to die because at some point cost of acquiring content, maintaining infrastructure and other overheads is going to be more than the revenue from a shrinking consumer base. DStv is at that point already.

Content owners like the EPL and La Liga are going to go the way of F1 TV and MotoGP. At that point consumers will cry about the price of à la carte viewing.

The cost of choice will be prohibitive. Without broadcasters around - which is bound to happen - à la carte offerings becomes the sole financier for production costs. This now has to be passed on to the consumer.

It's easy with a series production or a movie because filming and editing timelines are finite but it becomes infinitely more expensive and intricate when it comes to sport which is offered week in week out for 80-90% of the year. Be careful what you wish for.

The cost, will put, the broadcasters under more pressure, than the consumer. The consumer has the luxury of flexability, that the broadcadters, are not allowing themselves.