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Why ever did i chose winblows 10
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DrJohnZoidberg
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Bought a Windows 10 Pro key off eBay for R70. Wonder if it'll stay valid, seems like a no-brainer though even if I have to repurchase a new key every 6 months it'll still work out cheaper.
I'm not entirely on topic but just thought I'd bring this up.
I'm not entirely on topic but just thought I'd bring this up.
RedViking
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I prefer to buy OEM keys locally. If for some reason it stops working I know who to contact. You can also get it from https://www.kinguin.net/category/19429/windows-10-professional-oem-key/ or even better, give [MENTION=51831]Flashgear[/MENTION] a shout.
DrJohnZoidberg
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I bought one off Kinguin quite a while ago and it's still 100% fine but the cost is significantly higher than the eBay seller I used.
RedViking
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I hear what you say. But R70 bucks is dirt cheap. Even if the seller gets his keys for free from his company or where ever, I would question why he is selling it for so cheap. But if it works it works. You can even get it for R0 if you want to.
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I can assist I have OEM builder packs with the COA sticker / key for those wanting something physical as well.
Yesterday I set up my dad's girlfriend's laptop that she bought for an admin lady at work. Holy s**t I had no idea Windows 10 was capable of such retardation. Updates were basically impossible - they almost always failed, even after consulting Google and clearing caches and stuff. Thank god for the Windows 10 Update Assistant app, or otherwise it would have been impossible.
And I couldn't install uBlock Origin for Edge, or any other browser extention for it. The MS account and related settings are all fine, but clicking the install button in the Microsoft Store just causes the page to do a glitched refresh thing. You can click a dozen times and it just keeps refreshing. There are no obvious other issues with the store and no updates are pending. Bizarre.
Windows 10 in general isn't great on a laptop, although I hate laptops so much that I'd probably say that for all operating systems.
And I couldn't install uBlock Origin for Edge, or any other browser extention for it. The MS account and related settings are all fine, but clicking the install button in the Microsoft Store just causes the page to do a glitched refresh thing. You can click a dozen times and it just keeps refreshing. There are no obvious other issues with the store and no updates are pending. Bizarre.
Windows 10 in general isn't great on a laptop, although I hate laptops so much that I'd probably say that for all operating systems.
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Seriously this just makes no logical sense, so everything else said is well ....
Mixed laptop and Tablet OS. One size fits all concept. Apparently do not work.
The second problem is that Windows 10 is not a product anymore but a service. Finding bugs is shifted from test labs to the end users. It means, you are a product.
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Dave
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You make it sound like you are some sort of mechanical robot.
How does it not make sense?
My Windows 10 desktop experience:
- 46" display
- Mechanical keyboard & ergonomic mouse
- Nice speakers
- Silent system even at load
- Powerful hardware
- No power/battery concerns
- Super easy upgrades
Laptop experience on any OS:
- Tiny display
- Cramped crappy keyboard
- Stupid trackpad
- Loads of manufacturer bloatware to make connectivity work
- Crap speakers
- Noisy, sometimes when not even at load
- Weak hardware
- Battery life consideration
- Difficult or impossible to upgrade
- Awkward viewing angle unless on a stand or outputting to a monitor
I have always hated laptops. And no, the MBP does not come close to making it a good experience. I'll always prefer an iPad Pro for a bigger display while travelling or presenting stuff to clients instead of a laptop.
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You said windows 10 generally isn't good on a laptop so you would take a Pentium 1 Desktop with Windows 10 over a 2018 laptop with Windows 10, just doesn't makes sense.
A core I5 same gen/cpu/cores with 8 gig of ram Laptop will run windows exactly the same as a Desktop with the same specs, common sense.
You may prefer a desktop to a laptop (same as me) but that doesn't mean windows 10 is any worse on a laptop compared to a desktop.
The same crap on desktop and laptop. It is for me.
[MENTION=105871]Bryn[/MENTION]. A difference is with added bloatware on a laptop, while desktop had not been pre-installed. A laptop hardware limitation can be bypassed by adding a mouse, mechanical keyboard (as said) and external screen. A number of screens can be limited on a laptop if not fitted with DisplayPort or a Thunderbolt.
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Me and Windows 10 have a love hate relationship, I like playing games with DX12 support and Windows likes pissing me off. Things like disabling Windows defender gets reactivated every time there is an update and then they make it more difficult to turn off, same with notification bar. I even had a strange bug that turned my screen into the sun (screen was at max brightness and couldn't be adjusted) luckily that one was fixed quickly.
I have just learnt to run lean on windows and keep all the important information on a different drive (plus super fast internet helps), although Windows 10 has been behaving on my main PC for about 10 months without any serious issues
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This hasn't been my experience in the past, and I set up two laptops recently with Windows 10 and both handled things just fine. It sounds like you got units with an older version of the OS on them, maybe 1607 or 1611. 2016 was not a good year for Windows 10 at all.
Some people don't handle laptop form factors that well. I myself can't get myself to enjoy using a 15.6-inch or 17-inch notebook, but anything 13.3 inches and smaller does just fine. I prefer the trackpad and keyboard to be centered. Dell 15-inch laptops without a numberpad I can stand.
I mean, what would you rather have? 1000 devices in your labs in stable environments that you can test updates on?
Or a million emulated devices and environments in virtual machines, and ten million physical devices used by actual humans every day?
The latter will always find bugs and fix things faster.
It doesn't work in practice for Microsoft (perhaps bitcoin mining takes a priority...). Not to mention millions of not happy users. There is so many years and instead of moving constantly toward a goal which is a stable computing environment, we get one step forward and three steps back. .\\\.\\\.\\\
Dave
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Can you use robots to do that mining?
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You still have to provide some evidence for that Bitcoin mining that you say is going on, BTW.
Most of Microsoft's users are happy for the most part, though. It's the vocal minority of power users who are vocally unhappy, and extremely so.
Dave
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You forgot about the extremely vocal minority who hate it and scream and shout about it just because it's MS, no other reason at all, it could be absolutely perfect and they would still scream and shout and write micro$oft, winblows or windoze or make up crap like it's used for secret data mining...
They will never be happy.