Why intel sux so badly.

[TheRift]

Bring back MIPS!

 

[Rouxenator]

If intel were less secritive about iAPX 432 and less arrogant abou IA-64 then we would have an architecture 10x more advance than what we have today. All they need to do is realize they cannot do it alone and that AMD is not a threat but the most valuable technology partner they could wish for.

But I guess intel is to scared/arrogant and AMD is too small. I'd love for ARM to become more prominent in desktops - it already rules the mobile market.

 

[TheRift]

Do you have any pointers to ARM projects running full desktop OS? I'd be interested to see how they compare in such environments.

Sometimes, when devices such as these take on larger code bases they wind up having to grow in complexity to the point where, at the end of the day, you have an Intel or AMD sized ARM.

 

[scotty777]

Do you have any pointers to ARM projects running full desktop OS? I'd be interested to see how they compare in such environments.

Sometimes, when devices such as these take on larger code bases they wind up having to grow in complexity to the point where, at the end of the day, you have an Intel or AMD sized ARM.

ARM doesn't have a x86 license, so no windows/mac for them. But it's fine, linux will grow in popularity when OpenCL takes more of a hold. What we need to do is get more games on the OpenGL and OpenCL side, and more programs to use OpenCL, and people will realise that Windows/Mac isn't serving their best interest.

Also I think the Google OS doesn't run via x86, so who knows?

 

[TheRift]

Unfortunately, whoever is in charge of OpenGL really botched it up over the years from when it was IrisGL.

 

[d0b33]

And there is ubuntu for ARM now, should work on any ARM netbook.

 

[plenty]

This post puts the bias in biased

One could almost say that at intel marketing and legal are the most important divisions behind their success

One could also say that Intel R&D and Engineering are pretty darn solid!

Example: You dont just throw a CPU/GPU single chip design into the FAB and straight onto market overnight - Years of development had to be going on behind the scenes for both corporations... a slight difference AMD bought most of there technology, Intel didn't...

I believe the claim that these companies copy each others products is only partly true - Moore's law, power consumption, heat, fab processes, transistor density, dies per wafer, performance per watt, all impact the final product, Both companies have some very clever humans designing the next logical iteration of the consumer CPU/GPU/CHIPSET/COMBO all the while working within the physical limitations of the available tech...

We know they were getting close to hitting the clock speed limits of the current process. Don't you think that it's possible the logical next step was to possibly add another die? or 3? or 7?

... a company with a history of toss ups so buying a core2 duo was the dumbest thing you could do.

To be honest, factually it was not a bad piece, but totally ruined by self-opinion. For me it would have made more of an impact if you had left the decision making up to me whilst i was reading.

otherwise good job

 

[Rouxenator]

Quite true - I did write it being bias.

However, I did not simply trash intel - they did do a few things right and for that I credit them. P6 architecture is one such example, starting out on the Pentium Pro (which was not successful) it is still in use today!

Technically intel is pretty good - but they do have serious anti-trust issues. Way bigger than the M$ ones of the past. Just take the nVidia chipset thing as a recent example.

 

[Rouxenator]

[video=youtube;osSMJRyxG0k]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osSMJRyxG0k[/video]

 

[DrJohnZoidberg]

You remembered your own thread from 8 years ago.

 

[Rouxenator]

 

[cerebus]

Intel...

Luckily AMD is finally competitive, which makes the whole debate around Intel being anticompetitive meaningful.

 

[DrJohnZoidberg]

Luckily AMD is finally competitive, which makes the whole debate around Intel being anticompetitive meaningful.

That was never the issue though - AMD had competitive (and far superior chips) in the past but Intel used their marketshare (and anti-competitive behavior) to stifle them.

 

[Rouxenator]

Only took a bit over a decade.....

 

[ponder]

Meh, I got no brand loyalty.

Right now the best bang for buck gaming system would be the i5-10400f in many places around the world.

 

[Soul Assassin]

Meh, I got no brand loyalty.

Right now the best bang for buck gaming system would be the i5-10400f in many places around the world.

That's the one I'm looking at, my 4770 isn't the way anymore.

 

[Rouxenator]

I would not say I have brand loyalty, but I refuse to do business with companies that have been grossly unethical. Such as telkom, intel and western digital to name but a few.

I did like Cyrix/VIA back in the day. Back when you could have a socket 7 motherboard with a chipset from a range of different suppliers running a CPU from a range of different vendors.

 

[ponder]

That's the one I'm looking at, my 4770 isn't the way anymore.

Maybe wait a month and see what its Rocket Lake replacement offers price/performance wise.

 

[Soul Assassin]

Maybe wait a month and see what it's Rocket Lake replacement offers price/performance wise.

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