Why Mugabe is a true African hero

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I have and I see you have spectacularly failed to deal with several of my posts and the points therein, even though I'm asking direct and straight forward questions about forum rules of which you should be familiar than the average forumite.

I've asked you twice now to actually discuss the nonsense you posted, yet you refuse to. This thread is on post 60 already and you've still offered nothing of substance.

This is obviously trolling, and you want sympathy from the mods? Pfft.
 
Redeemed what's your opinion about Mugabe? You started the thread I assume you have an opinion?
 
@Redeemed

Don't post troll threads, then whine when people call you out on your BS. It just makes your persecution complex obvious.

@morkhans

Thank you for allowing common sense to prevail.
 
Something along the lines of an Afrikaans Box?


that thing you can still use for something.

The only good thing bob can be is worm food... but then again he is so corrupt nothing will grow in that ground for ever, not even worms are stupid enough..
maybe an object to use as target practice?
 
In response to the OP's article - there are a number of folks (not just on this forum) who might take issue with Robert Mugabe being presented as anything resembling a hero. Here is just one such group - called Genocide Watch

Here is a taste of what Genocide Watch have to say about Robert Mugabe:

Zimbabwe: UN Urged to Refer Mugabe to International Criminal Court

BY Alex Bell

13 August 2013

The United Nations (UN) is once again facing pressure to take the lead in confronting Robert Mugabe and the crimes against humanity he is responsible for, by referring the matter to the International Criminal Court (ICC).

New York based advocacy group AIDS-Free World this week called on the UN Security Council to step in, warning that if there is no international intervention in Zimbabwe, more violence and human rights abuses could be seen there.

My opinion for what it is worth? Robert Mugabe is a self-serving, power-hungry and greedy criminal, who has held on to power at any cost (except his own). My suspicion is that he knows if he doesn't hold on to power he will land up in court within hours (maybe minutes) of stepping out of his portfolio. He rules by fear, cronyism and force - using and abusing whatever he can muster to quell dissent. The person is a menace and a total disgrace to every person proud to call themselves African.

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I think frustration comes from posts like Cool E where he contradicts himself and says things without evidence. You can even see in the Obama thread now, Alan is getting ripped to shreds for having an opposing opinion, and h feels he has evidence while everyone else feels that they have opposing evidence. We make assumptions about each other.

Hardly its just the usual small posse who can only resort to personal insults. Ironically the same types who did their nut at those who dare oppose fellow 'progressive' Mugabe not so long ago....

Was once not only an African hero but of the left too....

"... honoured not only for his extraordinary intellectual discipline and energy but for those qualities of statesmanship which made him one of the great figures of modern Africa.”

University of Edinburgh

"Your gentle firmness in the face of anger, and your intellectual approach to matters which inflame the emotions of others, are hallmarks of your quiet integrity." ... "We salute you for your enduring and effective translation of a moral ethic into a strong, popular voice for freedom."

University of Massachusetts
 
Was once not only an African hero but of the left too....
Agree in part Alan - how the mighty are fallen, hey? But once a hero - always a hero - no, I don't think so.

I was one of those cheering when Robert Mugabe took over from Ian Smith - yes, I was kicking about the planet in those days. But to continue thinking he is OK because his history includes some good stuff? That was then (his "old" life) - this is the past two decades...
 
Mugabe is my hero. WTF He made everyone in Zim a millionair. A pity the colonialist powers hit back and destroyed the economy and currency with stupid sanctions :D
 
Zimbabwe: stage 5 ‘polarization’ - Source

By Genocide Watch
7 February 2012

According to the 8 stages of genocide, Zimbabwe is currently at stage 5: ‘polarization’. Like many other African countries, the tensions within the country have much to do with the country’s ethnic and colonial history. Polarization has always been high between the Shona and the Matabele and between the black population and the white minority. Robert Mugabe has ruled the country since 1980, after years of guerrilla war against harsh white minority rule. After taking power, Mugabe’s party (ZANU-PF) has tried to eliminate all sources of opposition in order to stay in power.

In 1983 and 1984 massacres of over 20,000 Matabele citizens of Zimbabwe were committed by the Fifth Brigade of the Zimbabwe Army. These massacres are called the “Gukurahundi”. This mass atrocity meets the definition of genocide because it targeted ethnic Matabele people. The massacres were carried out by the North-Korean trained, exclusively Shona Fifth Brigade under orders from President Mugabe. Genocide Watch called in September 2010 for prosecution of Zimbabwean president Robert Mugabe and other leaders for genocide and crimes against humanity for the Gukurahundi (see below).

The small white minority (under 100,000 people) was targeted by Mugabe’s dictatorship in order to gain support from the black population. Mugabe launched a “land reform” campaign to return white-owned land to black Zimbabweans, but without adequate compensation. Much of the land went to Mugabe’s political cronies. The rest has returned to subsistence farming. Land invasions by Mugabe’s ZANU-PF militias have caused agricultural and economic collapse, as white farmers fled Zimbabwe with their families before black managers could be trained to run the commercial farms that had made Zimbabwe agriculturally self-sufficient.

Agricultural workers fled to Zimbabwe’s cities when the commercial farms collapsed, and built shantytowns around them. In a vicious policy called “Drive Out the Filth”, Mugabe’s government bulldozed the shantytowns and left hundreds of thousands of Zimbabweans homeless and starving. This policy was declared a Crime Against Humanity and an early warning sign of genocide in a resolution of the International Association of Genocide Scholars in 2007.

Since 2000, Mugabe’s ZANU-PF has faced growing opposition from the Movement for Democratic Change (MDC), which transcends ethnic divisions. After the 2008 elections, which were accompanied by systematic fraud and attacks on thousands of suspected opposition voters, a government of national unity was formed with the MDC. Nevertheless, ZANU-PF is still trying to rule the country on his own.

Mugabe and the ZANU-PF are not facing the truth about the Gukurahundi, despite courageous MDC members like Minister for Education David Coltart who has stated that the Gukurahundi was genocide (see articles "It was genocide - Coltart" and "Rights violations: Zimbabwe must face the truth"). Currently, the 87-year old Mugabe is pushing for a quick election so the MDC cannot organize against him. If ZANU-PF militias again try to steal the next election, the situation could degenerate further into the preparation stage for genocide or politicide.

Next stage according to Genocide Watch? Stage 6: -
6. PREPARATION: Victims are identified and separated out because of their ethnic or religious identity. Death lists are drawn up. Members of victim groups are forced to wear identifying symbols. Their property is expropriated. They are often segregated into ghettoes, deported into concentration camps, or confined to a famine-struck region and starved. At this stage, a Genocide Emergency must be declared. If the political will of the great powers, regional alliances, or the U.N. Security Council can be mobilized, armed international intervention should be prepared, or heavy assistance provided to the victim group to prepare for its self-defense. Otherwise, at least humanitarian assistance should be organized by the U.N. and private relief groups for the inevitable tide of refugees to come.
 
Both of which were revoked.

University of Edinburgh

"The decision was taken after the university set up an academic panel to look at events between 1982 and 1984 in Matabeleland, where 20,000 people are thought to have died. The university has said that it knew nothing of the killings at the time of the award."

Alan said:
University of Massachusetts

"Mugabe's corrupt, repressive regime" was deemed "antithetical to the values and beliefs of the University of Massachusetts." It is the first time the board has revoked an honorary degree.
 
In response to the OP's article - there are a number of folks (not just on this forum) who might take issue with Robert Mugabe being presented as anything resembling a hero. Here is just one such group - called Genocide Watch

Here is a taste of what Genocide Watch have to say about Robert Mugabe:

Genocide watch can be a bit looney.
 
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