Why You Should Avoid Taking Vaccines

Everyone talking about worse flu after getting flu shots... My story is, i get a flu shot every year. I've been doing this on spot year after year for the last couple of years.

I HAVE NOT GOTTEN THE FLU IN YEARS! The key is to take it at the right time, take it BEFORE the mass flu season starts(as soon as they become available), take it when your immune system is strong and you feel good and well rested. I never worry about flu anymore even when loved ones have flu i dont mind being around them because i know i wont get infected.

Thing is i know its not fool-proof and i can catch a strain that wasnt in the cocktail but for the last couple of years they were spot on. People take a flu shot in the middle of winter when everyone's infected whats the use it takes weeks to work and you're prob already infected anyway... There's no doubting the science they're getting better and better year after year.
 
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Aeron said:
You say something like this and yet you still agree with vaccines like every other sheep out there. Great doctors who know everything, but you understand how the pharma industry works, contradicting yourself?
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You are insane. A staggering amount of children used to die of smallpox or be crippled by polio every year until the vaccination drives. Not even you lizardmen fearing types can dispute this.
 
If I find a lizardman-fearing type, I'll be sure and tell you brendan. And don't quote things out of context. Read the entire thing and you'll see it makes sense.

I don't dispute the polio "statistics", brendan. I am however disputing some of the vaccines. The upcoming swine flu vaccine that will be forced on everyone. And tomorrow swine flu mutates into ten different strands and now you need two vaccines.

I am further disputing the absolute shepherd-sheep relationship between doctors and the whole ****ing planet. In general you come across as a mature person who can actually think for himself, do you really believe everything a doctor tells you? And that he is telling you those things because he's got your "best interest's" at heart?

Do you believe doctors are all good samaritans who do what they do for the common good? Whole hypocrtical-oath and all that?
 
My word there are some mentally retarded people on this forum. Soon we'll have the aids denialists back. What happy days those were.

Hopefully no soon-to-be parents read this tripe and take it for anything other than what it is.
 
Vegeta said:
Everyone talking about worse flu after getting flu shots... My story is, i get a flu shot every year. I've been doing this on spot year after year for the last couple of years.

I HAVE NOT GOTTEN THE FLU IN YEARS! The key is to take it at the right time, take it BEFORE the mass flu season starts(as soon as they become available), take it when your immune system is strong and you feel good and well rested. I never worry about flu anymore even when loved ones have flu i dont mind being around them because i know i wont get infected.

Thing is i know its not fool-proof and i can catch a strain that wasnt in the cocktail but for the last couple of years they were spot on. People take a flu shot in the middle of winter when everyone's infected whats the use it takes weeks to work and you're prob already infected anyway... There's no doubting the science they're getting better and better year after year.
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+1

Good advice, if some idiots could just spend some time actually READING
 
While i dont endorse no immunizations, especially against things like smallpox, and polio, i do feel that the willy nilly immunization of children with mixed concoction type injections , does more harm in the long run to the natural development of the immune system.
I remember as a kid , that when some other kid got things like mumps , measles, chicken pox etc, i was dragged off by my parents and encouraged to go and play with them, thus contracting the normal childhood illnesses, that are vitally important to developing a natural strong immune system, and allowing the body to develop natural anti-bodies as the illness ran its course.
The contraction of illness as an infant is vitally important to the development of the human immune system, strengthening it, and thereby creating a healthier adult.
There is no human immune system on this planet that can function properly when infiltrated and bombarded with germs from three to five infectious diseases at one time, which is what happens when a shot is given that combines several different disease germs at once. Especially if the diet of the individual has been deficient, and considering how many people out there do not actually eat healthy food, the amount of products that lack decent nutrients and how many parents bombard their kids with nutrient lacking meals, even from a young age, problems will develop, if not immediately, but further down the line.
But then again, if you follow the idea of big pharma, big money, clever PR, etc etc then one can also see that general ill health, yearly flu shots etc, are big sellers, and generate obscene amounts of money for certain companies, state run health care facilities and individuals.

Good site with many links for and against:
Vaccine Info and Vaccination Hazards
http://curezone.com/topic/vaccination/

Vaccines: know the risks
http://www.healingdaily.com/conditions/vaccination.htm
 
Aeron said:
I don't dispute the polio "statistics", brendan. I am however disputing some of the vaccines. The upcoming swine flu vaccine that will be forced on everyone. And tomorrow swine flu mutates into ten different strands and now you need two vaccines.
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I didnt mean to cause such a rukus,i was just sharing what i thought was important info...

Here is a video of a lady who took the SWINE FLU shot in 1976 and was severly hurt by it!! (She is trying to sue for 12 Million Dollars)

Its quite sad watching this > http://files.ww.com/files/56402.html

Whats confusing is WHY SHE TOOK IT. She said she hadnt ever taken a flu shot,why this one??

Were they forced in 1976?
 
For those of you who have doubts about vaccinations etc, and don't trust drug companies etc I just bought and finished a book this week (had time on my hands due to being in hospital :D) that was rather interesting. It's called Bad Science and covers the cons of drug companies and homeopaths and how flawed some studies are...

It may enlighten you and you could very possibly make a decision based on it.
 
I have never had a flushot, and have never had the flu,(2 decades free of flu) though my partner who gets a flushot once a year, has flu every year.

So here we have two peas in the same pod, one protected and getting ill nevertheless and one unprotected not getting ill.

Individuals have different immune reactions, some have more natural immunity than others.

The partner works in a high risk environment, lots of people* and an 'artificial' environment (airconditioning/heating), travels a lot.

I work in a low risk environment, with hardly any 'people contact' and I do not
travel and I work in a natural environment where I am in constant contact with natural germs from the home, garden, dog, cat and birds.

Perhaps it is my daily contact with common germs that keeps my immune system healthy and at low risk.


* 15 000
 
I'd be curious to know how many of these opponents of vaccinations actually have children who they've refused to have vaccinated.
 
RetroBok said:
For those of you who have doubts about vaccinations etc, and don't trust drug companies etc I just bought and finished a book this week (had time on my hands due to being in hospital :D) that was rather interesting. It's called Bad Science and covers the cons of drug companies and homeopaths and how flawed some studies are...

It may enlighten you and you could very possibly make a decision based on it.
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"Bad Science" fundamentally changed the way I see the world. After reading the book you will never view another media article as you did before....
 
mercurial said:
As previously stated, a lot of people seem to get worse when taking flu vaccines
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And a lot of people get better. Many people swear by their annual 'flu' shot. And they consistently don't get 'flu' every single year. The vaccine can even help if you've already contracted the disease.
 
Maybe the lesson is to read up and make your own informed decision. That alone makes this thread worth it. For every option there will be some crackpot that sees the devil in it, writes a book and creates a website and vice versa. You have to evaluate and decide.

I, for one, will most like vaccinate our first-born - due in September.

BTW...

Vaccines: know the risks
http://www.healingdaily.com/conditions/vaccination.htm
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This website doen't inspire much confidence, including his tribute to "His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi" :rolleyes:
 
noxibox said:
And a lot of people get better. Many people swear by their annual 'flu' shot. And they consistently don't get 'flu' every single year. The vaccine can even help if you've already contracted the disease.
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Look, I'm not saying that these flu vaccines don't work, or any other for that reason. All I'm saying is that the people I've spoken to have all told me that they got the worst flus of their lives when they took the vaccine.
 
Dude111 said:
I didnt mean to cause such a rukus,i was just sharing what i thought was important info...

Here is a video of a lady who took the SWINE FLU shot in 1976 and was severly hurt by it!! (She is trying to sue for 12 Million Dollars)

Its quite sad watching this > http://files.ww.com/files/56402.html

Whats confusing is WHY SHE TOOK IT. She said she hadnt ever taken a flu shot,why this one??

Were they forced in 1976?
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As far as i know there hasn't been a vaccine until now
 
I used to get flu every year.
I had a flu vaccination once and I got pretty sick.
Was about 5 years until I got flu again.

Dunno what they put in that stuff.
 
Aeron said:
Also when big pharma sees a threat to profits they get it banned, like in the diet supplement industry with ephedra, ephedrine & pseudoephedrine. But the pseudoeph in flu meds from those companies remains mysteriously unbanned/unregulated."
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They had no reason to want ephedrine et al restricted in any medication. Those drugs became restricted because anti-drug loonies thought they'd actually be able to stop the manufacture of methamphetamine. Some morons who overdid ephedrine were also used as a further "risk" justification.
 
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This thread could go on forever but a very simple fact remians; people believe what they want to believe, regardless of whether it's true or false. And what people believe govern their existence.

With that in mind, let's look at which of the two cases (arguments for vaccines or no vaccines) holds more appeal to be believed by the general public, regardless of whether they're correct or not:

Would you rather believe that vaccinations are potentially very dangerous, contain other viruses (AIDS in the small pox vaccines in mid-Africa) put there by the sandman or murphy or Elvis, can potentially harm your immune system and make you dependant on further medication forever and that there is no real safe way to keep yourself or your children free of horrible ailments like polio and swine flu....

...or...

Would you rather believe that vaccines are perfectly safe, carry very little risk, are life-savers against foul diseases, that the doctors and pharmas promoting them are all very responsible and wouldn't dare do anything dangerous to help profits, and that it's a non-committal, easy way to keep yourself and your children safe?

Gee, tough decision. Anyone with a bit of insight would see that the more "comfortable" option is so much more appealing that people just might believe a lie.
 
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