-
Join the MyBroadband community
South Africa’s biggest forum. Discuss, discover, and connect with thousands of members.
-
Question of the Day: How do you normally pay for purchases in stores?
Will this Farmer also get away with murder?
- Thread starter sox63
- Start date
DigitalSoldier
Honorary Master
No not at all there are lots of racists in the ANC
But would a racist white farmer support the ANC ?Just curious but did u see the farmer cant be a racist since he is an ANC supporter now instead of accepting accountability for your statement you call somebody else names ?
Angelo condemed the deed and the response of the forum members who were quick to come to the defence of the farmer, some even vouched for his honesty as they stated that it was probably him who called the police. The main reason they came to his defence was that he was a white farmer.
You know people in this forum are quick to take sides, particularly, if they feel that it represents their race interests without being objective and fair (well there are very few exceptions).
He was angered by this callousness in defending the irresponsible act of a man just because of the colour of his skin. I have recently been through the state hand-gun training manual and it explicitly states that you only shoot at something that presents an increasing danger to you. This was clearly not the case.
He being an ANC member doesn't exonerate him from this irresponsible deed, nor does it not make him a racist.
I guess some of you who defended him are perplexed at how you can respond or support him now that you know he is a member (or atleast an active supporter) of an institution that embodies everything you hate.
DigitalSoldier
Honorary Master
I never once said I defend his action...
But calling the guy a racist before any real facts were available thats just a bit unfair. Please tell me what would you have said if the farmer was also black, would you have agreed with his "thought it was a baboon story" ?
I support the farmer, I would also shoot first and ask the baboons later if they would kindly leave my property alone.
Turns out it was not a baboon but a person. It can not be expected of hunters and farmers to first make sure there are no humans roaming wild among the animals before shooting. That is nonsense. When I shoot a lion or an equally dangerous animal, like baboons I want to do it from a safe distance without first inspecting the surrounding area in detail for possible humans roaming among them. Humans do not roam free with wild animals.
Turns out it was not a baboon but a person. It can not be expected of hunters and farmers to first make sure there are no humans roaming wild among the animals before shooting. That is nonsense. When I shoot a lion or an equally dangerous animal, like baboons I want to do it from a safe distance without first inspecting the surrounding area in detail for possible humans roaming among them. Humans do not roam free with wild animals.
marine1
Honorary Master
?? So if he disagree's with someone here he can swear at them? Wrong forum....
marine1
Honorary Master
Not to mention he was an ILLEGAL and TRESSPASSING
Yes black farmers also have the right to shoot baboons who are destructive to their property. Their game, they can do with it what they want. Shooting it is a good idea.
Rooinek: Does it help you to see anyone who disagrees with you as merely part of a monolithic entity, all sharing clearly defined traits and the exact same thought processes? Does assuming the motivations of others ease your mind, rather than troubling yourself looking at the individual reasons? Your prejudice is astounding.
You'll find my post on the first page, condemning the farmer for his carelessness in handling a firearm. However, that's all I condemn. I don't believe that this man is the racist murderer that some have tried to make him out as. Mistakes are possible.
Use of firearms for nuisance animal management is accepted and practised on farms across SA.
Off topic: why were you looking at the handgun training manual? Getting/relicensing a firearm? Feel welcome to respond in PM if you don't want to go off topic.
You'll find my post on the first page, condemning the farmer for his carelessness in handling a firearm. However, that's all I condemn. I don't believe that this man is the racist murderer that some have tried to make him out as. Mistakes are possible.
Use of firearms for nuisance animal management is accepted and practised on farms across SA.
Off topic: why were you looking at the handgun training manual? Getting/relicensing a firearm? Feel welcome to respond in PM if you don't want to go off topic.
Not at all. You do not take-out a handgun to scare anything. It is a criminal offence. You do not point a handgun at any person. It is a criminal offence. Everyone who has recently re-newed their handgun licence knows this. What the farmer he did was irresponsible. Angelo was responding tp forumites who defended the man and convenietly forgot about the deed just because he is white.
Was I the first person to mention race in this thread? Your bigotry is clouding your judgement. @sshole!
You disgust me Syndre!
Sorry I honestly thought you were, guess I should pay more attention next time.
I made a mistake and I apologise but I'm not a bigot.
If you read my post I did mention that there are exceptions. I did not state that he was a racist murderer, because I did not know. But I suspected because of his baboon response. I however, vigorously condemned, and still condemn, all those who came to his defence without taking time to read the story.
To be honest, since he is an active ANC supporter, I suspect that he was a gatvol farmer, who was tired of zimbabweans entering his farm and most probably acted without thinking. Which should be condemened, as firearms are very dangerous weapons and should be handled with care and should only be taken out if the intention is to kill.
Yes, I am in the process of getting a firearm licence (I have a proficiency certificate) but the process is difficult, complex and extremely long, with great possibility of failure.
Last edited:
I think we are concentrating too much on the fact that he aimed for a baboon and hit a man. What the hell was the man doing there?
I think it can be assumed that the man was not fertilizing the soil and tending the needs of the farm in an effort of goodwill.
So he was shot, next time he will be sure to not set foot on the property of the victimized farming community. I know I will shoot anyone, regardless of the consequences (there should not be any) to protect myself and my family. The castle method of protecting oneself. Shoot first and ask questions later, makes the most sense.
I think it can be assumed that the man was not fertilizing the soil and tending the needs of the farm in an effort of goodwill.
So he was shot, next time he will be sure to not set foot on the property of the victimized farming community. I know I will shoot anyone, regardless of the consequences (there should not be any) to protect myself and my family. The castle method of protecting oneself. Shoot first and ask questions later, makes the most sense.
Rikus
Banned
The next generation will see 50+ people claiming the land as the place where their great grandfather, whacha ma call him, eeeh. "We don't know his name but we want the land". This will be part of land reforms. The SABC will broadcast HDTV images of their heroic struggle and the peace they now claim to experience.
Vrotappel
Bulls fan
haha
dlk001
Executive Member
Another sickening story of senseless murder.