Windows 8 Developer Preview

Also hate the fact that the metro apps have no close button.

Absolutly love it when copying files it actually have a pause button and better speed display for file copying..
 
Jakes147 said:
Windows 8 NOOB question;) How do I close a metro app?
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I don't think you need to close any apps. The OS automatically suspends it when you move away from it. Keep in mind that the MetroApps were designed for Touch Screen devices and that most other apps can still be run in the normal fashion using the Desktop. It is like having 2 GUIs (one for Mouse/Keyboard and one for Touch) - combined into 1 OS. It took me a while to get use to it, but I think M$ has a winner. Now I need to get some cheap Multi-Touch screens somewhere :D
 
antowan said:
Is the installation as quick as Windows 7?
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May be even faster--This was one things I was impressed with--I used the 32-bit iso, and it did the full install in under 25 mins. (may be less). Only issue is you have manually install hardware drivers--so far my W7 ones worked fine. Makes sure you run in compatibility mode if does not work first time.
 
Hey Hey

Been using this all day today... and as commented earlier my two biggest gripes are... the way it dumps every installed shortcut onto the start screen, such a pain to click each unwanted uninstall / readme etc file and unpin... no close button on running Metro Apps... so it is now swipe swipe swipe swipe through unwanted rubbish to get back to needed one. Thankfully taskmanager is pinned and wallops them quick quick. Grrrrr.

The new file copy is a win ! Finally !

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Stable and quick preview release...
 
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Smiley_lauf said:
May be even faster--This was one things I was impressed with--I used the 32-bit iso, and it did the full install in under 25 mins. (may be less). Only issue is you have manually install hardware drivers--so far my W7 ones worked fine. Makes sure you run in compatibility mode if does not work first time.
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Indeed... I installed the 64bit, clicked install... went to make some breakfast / toast and coffee... was finished when I sat back down at desk... 15 - 20 minutes !

Needed only to install my Nvidia / chipset and fingerprint reader driver... all else done.
 
Went the VHD route via USB install, bloody fast. Only effort so far was manually installing x360 wireless receiver.
 
Sort by File Extension :love:

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finally.thank you.thank you.thank you. :D

I wonder if I can reg-hack this to 7... ?? Hmmm.

Still does not excuse the ribbon though.
 
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win 7 has sort by type
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Sort by type lumps all the same types together ! Everything according to the application registered as default.

Grrrrrrrr. Sort by file extension been absent since Vista !

Now I can find my ogg in my mp3s etc.
 
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Number one reccomendation : get zune it complements the metro style.

Ok first off new Task manager is amazing and the explorer update is much needed. The ribbon... the ribbon takes getting used to but I actually like it.

And now for the coding side of things.
Visual studio 2011.
The new metro app desing thing forcing you to use xaml annoys me. The rad aspect of vs has been seriously stunted by this its like developing silverlight apps. and just as wpf was gaining momentum. its very similar to wpf just so rugged but hey "beta". So much has been added in .net 4.5 and some of the basic metro controls annoy me.
at least the c# side of things is still relatively the same

Oh yeah how could I forget! native vhd and iso mount!
 
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S3cretz said:
Oh yeah how could I forget! native vhd and iso mount!
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And here I was, wondering how I'm going to get ISOs mounted to install i.e. Office on my netbook. Now I don't have to hope that Daemon tool will work! :-D
 
X86 Apps for Windows 8 wil NOT run on ARM version

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/15/sinofsky_windows8_arm_support_x86_apps/

Despite prior hints – and a Redmond developer conference that was all about app compatibility – Microsoft’s Steven Sinofsky has said that software for x86 Windows 8 systems will not run on ARM architecture.

For months, Redmond has promised that any code that ran on Windows 7 would run on Windows 8, with the expectation for many this included compatibility with ARM systems. But in a meeting Wednesday with financial analysts – transcribed on Microsoft's website – Sinofsky dashed these expectations. He insisted this wasn't a retreat from previous stances since Windows 7 doesn’t run on ARM systems, something that came as a surprise to the analyst asking the question.

It’s going to be a surprise for a lot of other people too. Just yesterday, Steve Ballmer was promising that on Windows 8’s launch there would be 500 million systems capable of running the OS, making it the world’s largest software market. What he chose not to mention was that the lack of compatibility for Windows 8 on ARM will mean significant developer time has to be spent porting applications for system on a chip (SOC) devices, relegating it to very much second class status among developers and consumers.

No doubt, Intel is also feeling a certain sense of vindication. In May, Intel software chief Renée James told investors that legacy Windows apps would not run on ARM platforms. Microsoft took the unusual step of publicly criticizing James, calling her statements “inaccurate and unfortunately misleading,” but declining to be specific.

In his briefing, Sinofsky said that battery life was a particular issue for applications running on ARM SOC hardware, and there were significant downsides to ensuring compatibility between these and x86 systems. Instead, he spun this as an opportunity for developers to make money on both markets, rather than a form of coding apartheid.

“If we allow the world of x86 application support like that, or based on what we call desktop apps in our start yesterday, then there are real challenges in some of the value proposition for system on a chip," he said. "You know, will battery life be as good, for example? Well, those applications aren't written to be really great in the face of limited battery constraints, which is a value proposition of the Metro style apps.”

“So, we have to be careful that we don't remove the value proposition for those applications. On the other hand, people would say, 'Oh, but you have to let them run because then there's that whole ecosystem.' And then if we do let them run, we just brought the perceived negatives of some of the ecosystem. So, people say, great, now it's easy to port viruses and malware and we'll port those.”

Later in the same meeting, Ballmer estimated that around 5 to 10 per cent of Windows 8 users would be using keyboardless systems, expected to be the prime vehicle for ARM hardware. That said, the Samsung fondleslab Microsoft gave out to attendees of its BUILD conference lacks a keyboard but carries the same x86 hardware specification as a top-flight laptop. Faced with running most Microsoft code or settling for what gets ported to ARM, it’s clear which most buyers, and developers, will choose. ®
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I must admit this is the one question that bugged me about Windows 8 the most, glad to see it being cleared up.
 
Personally also hate the ribbon!! Anyway to get the old file edit view tools help menu back???!!

EDIT: And for those who don't enjoy the Metro UI
 
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sandmanm34 said:
Personally also hate the ribbon!! Anyway to get the old file edit view tools help menu back???!!
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Install windows 7, thats the only way.

You might want to try and copy the explorer.exe from windows 7 and see if that works.
 
Elimentals said:
Install windows 7, thats the only way.

You might want to try and copy the explorer.exe from windows 7 and see if that works.
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lol... From a laymans perspective other than the ribbon and the Metro UI Windows 8 is not very different to 7 which IMHO is a good thing. One thing I don't enjoy is change for the sake of change and too often new OS are just that.
 
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