Windows Server 2003 Roles/Networking (Need serious help here)

Check if the networking stack is functional on the XP machine?
just ping 127.0.0.1.
Could be a number of things really.
 
what is the subnet of your lan ?
what is the scope subnet/ip ?
What is the server ip ?
what is the ip pool ranges ?
any reservations configured ?
waht is the scope options set too, router/dns/domain name/wins ip/wins hex ?
are there server options over riding scope options ?
is the dhcp service started and set to automatic ?

on the server, start netmonitor, boot up xp and allow it to do arp request, go back to netmonitor and stop the capture, filter by protocol, disable all protocols then enable ARP, what do you see, any arp request from the Xp machine mac address?
 
If you managed to ping them earlier when you had static IP's, it mostly rules out problems with the switch and cables.

ubercal gave pretty much the best way of getting your domain going, so I won't repeat that.

As for the XP machine, make sure that it's set to obtain an address automatically. You can reboot or type ipconfig /renew at a command prompt to obtain an address from the DHCP server. Your DHCP server sounds like it is active, based on the upwards pointing green arrow.

I must say, it's rather heavy work for a N+. Good luck with it all and keep us informed.

@ Mean_Monster
Windows DHCP server can work fine without Active Directory. I've tested this many times. It's only when there's an Active Directory domain that you need to authorise it.
 
Linoman said:
When should I setup the DNS on the Server?
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Before you make it a DC.
Then follow Ubercal's instructions.

Keep checking your event logs - they normally give you a clue to what
problems and conflicts are with your DHCP, DNS etc.

You want no problems with your DNS before loading the AD.

Wierd you having so many problems with dhcp - should be strait forward.
Did you setup this box from scratch, or has it been used in the past and promoted and demoted and member of another domain etc basically messed with etc ? - if so toast it and start again!


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Wow guys, thanks to all of you for so many replies. Allow me to fill you all in a bit more.

The pc's that I have been having these problems with, are the ones at college. We all have to work with two machines, one 2003 and the other XP.

We had to do these things in class and of cause my two pc's refused to work. My lecture was/well pretty usuless and basically couldn't get it working and just ignored it.

Now this Thursday I have to be able to do it for my exam.. And if it doesn't work, I fail
 
Linoman said:
We had to do these things in class and of cause my two pc's refused to work. My lecture was/well pretty usuless and basically couldn't get it working and just ignored it.
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Well dude, that's not too bright is it? :rolleyes:

If you couldn't do it in class and your lecturer couldn't get it working, how the hell you going to get it right in the exam?

I would kick up a fuss and demand another machine - or a reloaded one at least!

[edit] don't they supply you with those 30day MS trial / student media? (which it's going to ask for each time you add a role) Do it yourself!

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Ivork said:
Well dude, that's not too bright is it? :rolleyes:

If you couldn't do it in class and your lecturer couldn't get it working, how the hell you going to get it right in the exam?

I would kick up a fuss and demand another machine - or a reloaded one at least!

[edit] don't they supply you with those 30day MS trial / student media? (which it's going to ask for each time you add a role) Do it yourself!

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Na no 30 day student trial media. The lecture I am about to give up on. I presume for the exam our pc's would have been formatted.

Is there anyway I can practice all of this, using vmware?
 
True, I will do that. How can I prevent Vmware and the host machine from assigning DHCP addresses to the virtual machines. Aka then my virtual machines only see each other and not the host?
 
Make sure that your machines at the college are not connected to the wider college network, or even other machines in your lab/lecture area. That can cause havoc with your experiments, and lead to issues like this. I know, because it happened to me at CTI 4 years ago, until I traced the issue down to the fact that the lab was connected to the main campus network.

I don't know how VMware works, but in Virtual Box, you just set your network type on the machines as Local or internal. All the machines then appear to be wired by a virtual switch, and your physical host computer will not interfere at all. Don't set it to NAT mode, or the host computer will give your virtual machine an address. Don't set it to host mode either, as then it creates a network adaptor under your host and can lead to even weirder network problems, unless you know what you are doing.

Good luck and keep trying. You will eventually crack this one. Your computers for the exam may be formatted, but because time is rather limited for N+, I imagine the basic OS on each machine will already be installed.
 
Is the dhcpd service running? Does it show as running under your service list?
 
Asha'man X said:
Make sure that your machines at the college are not connected to the wider college network, or even other machines in your lab/lecture area. That can cause havoc with your experiments, and lead to issues like this. I know, because it happened to me at CTI 4 years ago, until I traced the issue down to the fact that the lab was connected to the main campus network.

I don't know how VMware works, but in Virtual Box, you just set your network type on the machines as Local or internal. All the machines then appear to be wired by a virtual switch, and your physical host computer will not interfere at all. Don't set it to NAT mode, or the host computer will give your virtual machine an address. Don't set it to host mode either, as then it creates a network adaptor under your host and can lead to even weirder network problems, unless you know what you are doing.

Good luck and keep trying. You will eventually crack this one. Your computers for the exam may be formatted, but because time is rather limited for N+, I imagine the basic OS on each machine will already be installed.
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Thank you for your comment. I will with out a doubt follow up on your advice. Might even install VirtualBox. Thank you, today at home I will continue to practice using a virtual environment. Hopefully all will work fine on Thursday.

w1z4rd said:
Is the dhcpd service running? Does it show as running under your service list?
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Yes it is, which is very perculier. You see the XP machine pickups other DHCP servers but not mine:confused:
 
Linoman said:
Yes it is, which is very perculier. You see the XP machine pickups other DHCP servers but not mine:confused:
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Hmm, interesting. It sounds almost as if there's another DHCP server somewhere on the network, which leads me back to what I said earlier about the network being joined up to the campus network.

Based on your first post, I don't think you've actually set up your domain yet? If you have, then I can understand DHCP being an issue until Authorised in Active Directory, but without a domain, your DHCP server should be handing out addresses no problem.

What are your DHCP scope options, just for interest's sake?
 
Asha'man X said:
Hmm, interesting. It sounds almost as if there's another DHCP server somewhere on the network, which leads me back to what I said earlier about the network being joined up to the campus network.

Based on your first post, I don't think you've actually set up your domain yet? If you have, then I can understand DHCP being an issue until Authorised in Active Directory, but without a domain, your DHCP server should be handing out addresses no problem.

What are your DHCP scope options, just for interest's sake?
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Let me explain the class layout a bit better. There are 22 computers, all connected through a switch.

Right during the practice session and upcoming exam. Following will happen.

Half of the PC's will be running XP PRO (Which are of cause the clients) and the other half running Server 2003 Ent.

So with all these pc's it causes huge DHCP problems etc. When ever I tried to connect my XP machine to the Server I setup it would not work. Only time it ever did (with connecting a domain etc) was when I assigned a static IP address.

I am so worried about failing its not funny. I am at my wits end and my lecture couldn't care less. I just wish we could have had decent practice time.
 
Anyone? I just have to say guys thanks for all the responses you have all been life savers.
 
Linoman said:
Let me explain the class layout a bit better. There are 22 computers, all connected through a switch.

Right during the practice session and upcoming exam. Following will happen.

Half of the PC's will be running XP PRO (Which are of cause the clients) and the other half running Server 2003 Ent.

So with all these pc's it causes huge DHCP problems etc. When ever I tried to connect my XP machine to the Server I setup it would not work. Only time it ever did (with connecting a domain etc) was when I assigned a static IP address.

I am so worried about failing its not funny. I am at my wits end and my lecture couldn't care less. I just wish we could have had decent practice time.
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Ah ha, here is the problem I think. Since all 22 computers are connected to 1 switch, there will be major issues. The DHCP servers on the other Windows Server boxes will be handing out addresses as well, and the moment your XP client(s) try to obtain an address, it gets one from the other server(s). There is no way you can force the XP machine to get an address from your particular server, as DHCP is broadcast based. Whichever server responds first to the client's request issues the address.

If your computers were on their own switch, you wouldn't have this issue. I don't suppose the switch supports VLANS either, which could avoid the rest of the noisy network, but I don't know anything more about VLANS.

This is why in a domain, your DHCP server needs to be authorised, so that there is only one handing out addresses. Other DHCP servers are called rouge servers, and will cause the issues you are having.

If possible, get or make a cross over network cable, and join your 2 machines directly, to avoid making use of that overcrowded switch.

That's a rather dumb move by the college, letting the machines all be connected to one switch. I'm sure other students have had and will have the same problem.
 
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