Workout Supplements

Meister-Man said:
The rest of your post was good, but this is woefully inaccurate 1-2kg muscle a year, that's only for guys who already have years of solid training under their belts.
As a novice, healthy young man with decent genetics and if you're willing to eat and you're on a good program you can gain plenty more than that.
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Muscle??? You’re kidding yourself if you think you can pick up more muscle than that.

There’s a big difference between weight and muscle. Very easy to pick up weight. Heck eating more carbs means 1 gram of carbs keeps 2-3grams water weight.

The pros even when they bulk up, up their carbs drastically, get ‘puffy’, and unless you’re top 0.01% of the population that can bulk up and maintain low body fat it’s impossible.

Like I said big difference between muscle and weight. Bottom line, there’s no shortcuts and it takes long term consistency to a plan to make changes.

Unless you’re the top 0.01%.
 
JasonK said:
Muscle??? You’re kidding yourself if you think you can pick up more muscle than that.

There’s a big difference between weight and muscle. Very easy to pick up weight. Heck eating more carbs means 1 gram of carbs keeps 2-3grams water weight.

The pros even when they bulk up, up their carbs drastically, get ‘puffy’, and unless you’re top 0.01% of the population that can bulk up and maintain low body fat it’s impossible.

Like I said big difference between muscle and weight. Bottom line, there’s no shortcuts and it takes long term consistency to a plan to make changes.

Unless you’re the top 0.01%.
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If you truly believe the max amount of muscle a man can pickup in his first year of lifting is 1-2kgs, no one should take any fitness / nutrition related advice of yours.

Here is a summary from an expert in this scientific field.
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Meister-Man said:
If you truly believe the max amount of muscle a man can pickup in his first year of lifting is 1-2kgs, no one should take any fitness / nutrition related advice of yours.

Here is a summary from an expert in this scientific field.
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Actually my bad, forgot (looked over the fact) it was his first year in training. Here’s hoping the OP picks up 12kgs pure muscle in his first year.

Out of interest how many people you know picking up that kind of mass, whilst maintaining their body fat?

I might have to start hanging around different circles I’m at a big fat (excuse the pun) ZERO people.
 
Meister-Man said:
If you truly believe the max amount of muscle a man can pickup in his first year of lifting is 1-2kgs, no one should take any fitness / nutrition related advice of yours.

Here is a summary from an expert in this scientific field.
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Bottom line though. There’s no hack, no quick fix. Just time and consistency. (Terrible advice I know)

That first year is sure gonna be great though.
 
Meister-Man said:
If you truly believe the max amount of muscle a man can pickup in his first year of lifting is 1-2kgs, no one should take any fitness / nutrition related advice of yours.

Here is a summary from an expert in this scientific field.
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Looks about right from my experience, but the reality is that about half of guys won't come close to this because of their genetics or they never learn how to eat and train properly.

Noobies in gym must realise is that for 95%+ of guys, after around 5 years of consistent proper training and a good diet, they will reach their natural limit for building muscle where no matter how they eat or train and won't get 'noticeably' more muscular unless taking stuff that messes with their hormones.

Obviously there's still room to improve aestethics and squeeze in small improvements.
 
Creatine is well documented, the legal rest meh.

These studies provide a large body of evidence that creatine can not only improve exercise performance, but can play a role in preventing and/or reducing the severity of injury, enhancing rehabilitation from injuries, and helping athletes tolerate heavy training loads.
Additionally, researchers have identified a number of potentially beneficial clinical uses of creatine supplementation.
These studies show that short and long-term supplementation (up to 30 g/day for 5 years) is safe and well-tolerated in healthy individuals and in a number of patient populations ranging from infants to the elderly.
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NikeXT said:
Not a complete food, so the conversion to muscle is bottlenecked. Same issue losing weight and the stupid calories in calories out mantra.
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I never got the hype of protein supplements. People probably see that 350kg DL guy with USN milkshake container in his hand and then think - hey - I found the easy way to build muscle and strength.
 
surface said:
I never got the hype of protein supplements. People probably see that 350kg DL guy with USN milkshake container in his hand and then think - hey - I found the easy way to build muscle and strength.
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I make icecream from it. EVOXs double dutch chocolate works the best when I mix it with milk; doesn't turn out grainy and is delicious AF!
 
LCBXX said:
I make icecream from it. EVOXs double dutch chocolate works the best when I mix it with milk; doesn't turn out grainy and is delicious AF!
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Evox mixes best, tastes good and doesn’t upset my stomach as much, but why?

Cacao powder is hydrophobic, it’s not supposed to mix well. What’s in Evox?
 
NikeXT said:
Evox mixes best, tastes good and doesn’t upset my stomach as much, but why?

Cacao powder is hydrophobic, it’s not supposed to mix well. What’s in Evox?
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If I make it straight up in the blender, with milk & ice, and drink, I fart like a racehorse 3-4 hours later.
Top-shelf farts without any sharting concerns.
 
I've stopped rando Protein shakes and replaced with Ensure Gold. The HMB helps.
Still using creatine and collagen.
 
surface said:
How much do you DL though ? :p


See q above.
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I leisurely walk on the treadmill for 30min, listening to a Ben Shapiro podcast, so I can get my Virgin Awards for a refreshing Kauai smoothie at the end of the month.
 
LCBXX said:
I leisurely walk on the treadmill for 30min, listening to a Ben Shapiro podcast, so I can get my Virgin Awards for a refreshing Kauai smoothie at the end of the month.
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It is astonishing what one can achieve due to Evox whey protein. Do you have a youtube channel or what? If it is OnlyFans then send it to @ShaunSA
 
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surface said:
www.bbc.co.uk

BBC Two - Trust Me, I'm a Doctor, Series 4, Episode 1 - Will protein supplements help me put on more muscle?

Protein supplements are marketed to everyone. But do we actually need them?
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
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While I agree with the outcome I also don't think that that study is entirely worth taking as gospel.

The protein group was better in every measure but the difference was small so it was written off as statistically indifferent.

My issue with that is that the gains over only an 8 week period will also be small so a small difference may be much bigger over say 2 years.

Would be interesting if they could do the same study over a year or more.
 
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