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Question of the Day: How often do you receive spam calls?
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lenosb
Well-Known Member
Don't you just love it when technology comes along that threatens the big fat cat cell co. rip offs?
finally I am interested to see the voip thingy java ap. I mean just think.. combine that with mixit.. and then you only load the app when you agree to do a voip session with a contact 
*rubs his hands togethor* I couldn't find the java app.. it just took me to a form tho. Gonna try again but if this is true 2 things will happen.. data service the cell companies might knee jerk some things about use(to protect voice pricing) or they give in after it becomes well spread and well.. voice prices go over the cliff finally.
I wonder about data rate of voip used tho.. as this will detemine if its cost effective.
I am interested to see the voip thingy java ap. I mean just think.. combine that with mixit.. and then you only load the app when you agree to do a voip session with a contact *rubs his hands togethor* I couldn't find the java app.. it just took me to a form tho. Gonna try again but if this is true 2 things will happen.. data service the cell companies might knee jerk some things about use(to protect voice pricing) or they give in after it becomes well spread and well.. voice prices go over the cliff finally.I wonder about data rate of voip used tho.. as this will detemine if its cost effective.
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The_Unbeliever
Honorary Master
Fat cat = endangered species 
At long last...
At long last...
sparklehorse
Senior Member
How does skaap.com's cell phone thingy work?
FireTelkom
Well-Known Member
Jajah does not involve using data on your side. I am using Jajah and the only data I currently use is the data to open their webpage to place the calls using my landline or cell phone. After that the phone rings, ask you to hold while your call is connected and then rings on the other side.
My brother in the UK uses a SonyEricsson K800 phone. He opens their bowser on the phone to originates the call to SA landline (registered user to registered user call). This call is then free!
Enjoy Jajah
Fantastic App
I have installed the app for symbian phones.
Based on a range of prefixes (+* or 00* or whatever) those calls are seamlessly routed on the jajah network. runs like this:
1. Dial call
2. Matches the list
3. JAJAH app kicks the standard call the phone tries to dial over norm cell network. (never inits call on cell network)
4. JAJAH sends call request over GPRS (or SMS if no GPRS)
5. JAJAH places a call to your cell (charged to your account)
6. JAJAH auto answers the call as soon as it arrives (never rings - answered instantly)
7. JAJAH places call to originally called party in point 1.
8. Calls are connected.
This all happened in about 10 seconds.
If you don't look at the cell screen, you wouldn't be any wiser all this happend. As said before there is no VOIP going on (as far as over the cells data connection), just standard calls initiated by their clever APP. I spoke to a friend of mine in the UK, perfect.
Brilliant!
I have installed the app for symbian phones.
Based on a range of prefixes (+* or 00* or whatever) those calls are seamlessly routed on the jajah network. runs like this:
1. Dial call
2. Matches the list
3. JAJAH app kicks the standard call the phone tries to dial over norm cell network. (never inits call on cell network)
4. JAJAH sends call request over GPRS (or SMS if no GPRS)
5. JAJAH places a call to your cell (charged to your account)
6. JAJAH auto answers the call as soon as it arrives (never rings - answered instantly)
7. JAJAH places call to originally called party in point 1.
8. Calls are connected.
This all happened in about 10 seconds.
If you don't look at the cell screen, you wouldn't be any wiser all this happend. As said before there is no VOIP going on (as far as over the cells data connection), just standard calls initiated by their clever APP. I spoke to a friend of mine in the UK, perfect.
Brilliant!
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martin
Expert Member
Thanks for the explanation! Regarding point 5, how much would that charge then be?
It all depends from where you are phoning, and where you are phoning to.
In the case for the call to the UK:
I was phoning a cell in Zone2 from a cell in Zone 3, therefore total call cost = €0.28, ie R2.81 per minute.
Full list
http://www.jajah.com/images/info/content/rates/ratesEUR.gif
I have treid to register on the site, but cannot load moeny via a Credit card. It seems like a very difficult process doing a bank transfer to an overseas account. The free test service from landline to landline did not work for some reason. When I entered the landline numbers (Cape Town) it said I must use landline numbers?
Skype was the same when it first started, couldn't take direct credit card payments. You can pay via Money bookers, easy service to use, does make it a bit of a hassle, but if you want the saving, worth the hassle...
So basically Jajah are going to charge you a small fee for the service PLUS the interconnect fees that your cell phone provider charges them.
i.e. Vodacom, MTN, etc. will send Jajah the bills for the Jajah to local cell provider connection which will get passed on to you.
However it seems that the interconnect fees for international customers is cheaper than local call rates?! That proves that MTN, Vodacom, etc. are really ripping us off here.
GreatBigMouth
Expert Member
Doesn't PTT work in more or less the same way?
So basically Jajah are going to charge you a small fee for the service PLUS the interconnect fees that your cell phone provider charges them.
i.e. Vodacom, MTN, etc. will send Jajah the bills for the Jajah to local cell provider connection which will get passed on to you.
However it seems that the interconnect fees for international customers is cheaper than local call rates?! That proves that MTN, Vodacom, etc. are really ripping us off here.
The app for your cell is a clever way of initiating the calls on the JAJAH network. All JAJAH charges are based on two calls (the one to you, and the one to the person you called) - you pay for both legs. So you pay the SA cell leg, and the other leg, wherever that terminates.
Still woks out much cheaper than placing a call internationally on your cell. Even with the cRaZy Rand/Euro exchange.
VOIP Buster / Skype is still much cheaper - if you're at home.
Which proves that the interconnect fees between these parties needs some serious investigation.
I'm pretty sure MTN, Vodacom, etc. aren't charging their International customers interconnect fees so low that they run at a loss.
This stinks of profiteering.
You're new around here?This stinks of profiteering.