2017 International Tests


Just shows how congested it is in the middle of the top 10. Scotland gained more out of their victory over Australia than we did with our victory over France. I see that Ireland has also replaced Australia in the number 3 spot now, another upshot of the Wallabies' loss to Scotland. The only team now not prone to others' results is NZ. I think even a whitewash at the hands of the B&I Lions (however unlikely) won't have massive ramifications on their grip on top spot.
 
Not clearly. AC and his springboks are busy redeeming themselves and you give credit to a newbie subordinate. Bit of an unfair assessment, don't you think? Especially since you don't know what is happening behind closed doors.

Yes, I don't know what is happening behind closed doors, but as John Robbie had it,

http://www.iol.co.za/sport/opinion/more-of-that-boks-and-the-crowds-will-return-9828903

Opinion | 17 June 2017, 4:18pm

The rugby was satisfying as well, although far from perfect. Right from the start, you felt there was an effective format in operation, and within that, the Boks could perform and also clearly make decisions.

Each player has to do his own job first and foremost, and then contribute where possible. Basics first, and then extras. This is Brendan Venter at his organisational best, and Allister Coetzee now has had time to design his own set-up.

Venter has also hosted the coaching Indaba's and gave direction to our Super Rugby development. You see, I don't disagree with Robbie's opinion, and I think that there is truth in that statement. As we all know, head coaching at this level is more than mere coaching, it is also an administrative role, so it can be assumed that Coetzee is delegating work to key coaching personnel.
 
Not clearly. AC and his springboks are busy redeeming themselves and you give credit to a newbie subordinate. Bit of an unfair assessment, don't you think? Especially since you don't know what is happening behind closed doors.

Nah. I think it is quite clear that Venter is the one making the difference.
 
BUT....wasn't AC's previous coaching team just kind of smeared off on him, though? I mean, like, they were kind of employed by the powers that be, not his choice? I speak under correction, but I thought I read somewhere -when he was appointed- that he really didn't have much say in the matter and then, begrudgingly, went with it.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, please.
 
World Rugby rankings (Top 20)

1. New Zealand 94.78
2. England 90.14
3. Ireland 85.09
4. Australia 84.63
5. Scotland 83.90
6. South Africa 83.63
7. Wales 81.90
8. France 80.16
9. Argentina 79.31
10. Fiji 76.63
11. Japan 74.09
12. Georgia 73.61
13. Tonga 71.40
14. Samoa 71.25
15. Italy 71.00
16. Romania 70.27
17. USA 66.10
18. Spain 64.02
19. Russia 63.13
20. Uruguay 62.28

Georgia moving up the rankings wow, what happened to Canada's rugby?
 
So it appears two very second string teams lining up for this morning's match (evening in NZ, I guess).

Chiefs:
15 Shaun Stevenson 14 Toni Pulu 13 Tim Nanai-Williams 12 Johnny Faauli 11 Solomon Alaimalo 10 Stephen Donald 9 Finlay Christie 8 Tom Sanders 7 Lachlan Boshier 6 Mitchell Brown 5 Michael Allardice 4 Dominic Bird 3 Nepo Laulala 2 Liam Polwart 1 Siegfried Fisiihoi

Reserves:
23 Chase Tiatia 22 Luteru Laulala 21 Jonathan Taumateine 20 Mitchell Karpik 19 Liam Messam 18 Atunaisa Moli 17 Aidan Ross 16 Hika Elliot

B&I Lions:
15 Liam Williams 14 Jack Nowell 13 Jared Payne 12 Rob Henshaw 11 Elliot Daly 10 Dan Biggar 9 Greig Laidlaw 8 Christiaan Stander 7 Justin Tipuric 6 James Haskell 5 Courtney Lawes 4 Iain Henderson 3 Dan Cole 2 Rory Best 1 Joe Marler

Reserves:
23 Tommy Seymour 22 Finn Russell 21 Gareth Davies 20 Alun Wyn Jones 19 Cory Hill 18 Tomas Francis 17 Allan Dell 16 Kristian Dacey
 
Yes, I don't know what is happening behind closed doors, but as John Robbie had it,

http://www.iol.co.za/sport/opinion/more-of-that-boks-and-the-crowds-will-return-9828903



Venter has also hosted the coaching Indaba's and gave direction to our Super Rugby development. You see, I don't disagree with Robbie's opinion, and I think that there is truth in that statement. As we all know, head coaching at this level is more than mere coaching, it is also an administrative role, so it can be assumed that Coetzee is delegating work to key coaching personnel.

Yes, Venter is bringing his own special expertise and knowledge to the team.

To say he is head coach ahead of AC is where you are being unfair.

The difference between this year and last year, is that AC has more freedom to choose his own subordinates. It is actually a sign of good leadership to hire the best managers to do the job, and AC got this right with bringing in Venter.
 
Lions 20 - 6 up with 25 minutes to play and the Chiefs now down to 14 men. Think this is looking bleak for them now.
 
Jeez, going pear shaped for the Chiefs. Lions now 34 - 6 up with 15 minutes left on the clock!
 
[video=youtube;bSSaegPOIM8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSSaegPOIM8[/video]
 
I booked at the Keg to go watch the All Blacks vs Lions game. Surprisingly nobody else has booked. I suppose most people will be going there to watch the Springbok game later in the day.
 
Ross Cronje ruled out of the third test with delayed concussion symptoms. Expect Hougaard to start with Paige coming onto the bench.
 
SA 'A' team to face the French Barbarians. Handre Pollard on the bench.

South African 'A': 15 Warrick Gelant, 14 Lwazi Mvovo, 13 Lionel Mapoe, 12 Francois Venter (captain), 11 Seabelo Senatla, 10 Fred Zeilinga, 9 Dewaldt Duvenage, 8 Andisa Ntsila, 7 Sikhumbuzo Notshe, 6 Chris Cloete, 5 Ruan Botha, 4 Jason Jenkins, 3 Trevor Nyakane, 2 Ramone Samuels, 1 Ox Nche.

Replacements: 16 Franco Marais, 17 Thomas du Toit, 18 Wilco Louw, 19 Uzair Cassiem, 20 Ruan Ackermann, 21 Jano Vermaak, 22 Handré Pollard, 23 Juan de Jongh.
 
Squads for the first ABs vs Lions test this weekend:

All Blacks: Ben Smith, Israel Dagg, Ryan Crotty, Sonny Bill Williams, Rieko Ioane, Beauden Barrett, Aaron Smith; Kieran Read (c), Sam Cane, Jerome Kaino, Sam Whitelock, Brodie Retallick, Owen Franks, Codie Taylor, Joe Moody.

Reserves: Nathan Harris, Wyatt Crockett, Charlie Faumuina, Scott Barrett, Ardie Savea, TJ Perenara, Aaron Cruden/Lima Sopoaga, Anton Lienert-Brown

Lions: Liam Williams, Anthony Watson, Jonathan Davies, Ben Te'o, Elliot Daly, Owen Farrell, Conor Murray, Taulupe Faletau, Sean O'Brien, Peter O'Mahony (captain), George Kruis, Alun Wyn Jones, Tadhg Furlong, Jamie George, Mako Vunipola.

Reserves: Ken Owens, Jack McGrath, Kyle Sinckler, Maro Itoje, Sam Warburton, Rhys Webb, Johnny Sexton, Leigh Halfpenny

One notable change is Rieko Ioane taking Julian Savea's spot on left wing. Didn't quite see that coming.
 
Probable Boks by SA Rugby Rag – 15 Andries Coetzee, 14 Raymond Rhule, 13 Jesse Kriel, 12 Jan Serfontein, 11 Courtnall Skosan, 10 Elton Jantjies, 9 Francois Hougaard, 8 Warren Whiteley (c), 7 Jean-Luc du Preez, 6 Siya Kolisi, 5 Franco Mostert, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Ruan Dreyer, 2 Malcolm Marx, 1 Beast Mtawarira.
Subs: 16 Bongi Mbonambi, 17 Steven Kitshoff, 18 Coenie Oosthuizen, 19 Pieter-Steph du Toit, 20 Jaco Kriel, 21 Rudy Paige, 22 Frans Steyn, 23 Dillyn Leyds.


http://www.sarugbymag.co.za/blog/details/lions-to-roar-at-ellis-park
 
Squads for the first ABs vs Lions test this weekend:



One notable change is Rieko Ioane taking Julian Savea's spot on left wing. Didn't quite see that coming.

That is as good a B&I Lions side as I have ever seen. To have players like George North not even in the squad and Leigh Halfpenny starting on the bench must tell you something. Whether it will be enough remains to be seen but I can't wait for the game!
 
That is as good a B&I Lions side as I have ever seen. To have players like George North not even in the squad and Leigh Halfpenny starting on the bench must tell you something. Whether it will be enough remains to be seen but I can't wait for the game!

Yeah, it's a very high quality side to be sure. Found it a bit odd that Halfpenny is on the bench. Thought his boot would have put him in the starting line-up.

But either way it's shaping up to be a great contest. Just hope the rain stays away.
 
Japan is going to be wasted, again, due to uncertainty. The Highlanders game plan is simply not working at this stage and will take more time. The combos they had to select is a typical team to attack into open-spaces, but it is a game type last played under Eddie Jones.

https://english.kyodonews.net/news/...tain-as-injuries-strike-joseph-swings-ax.html

Rugby: Leitch back as Japan captain as injuries strike, Joseph swings ax

Head coach Jamie Joseph responded to a disappointing 50-22 defeat in the first test -- in which he said the players were "not desperate enough" -- by making eight changes and two positional switches.

Shota Horie and Fumiaki Tanaka are among the senior players dropped to the bench for Saturday's game at Tokyo's Ajinomoto Stadium, while Luke Thompson returns to the side 18 months after announcing his retirement from international rugby.

"We are giving an opportunity to some players who made an impact off the bench last week and some players have been demoted," Joseph said after training Thursday at Tatsumi Rugby Ground.

As for Leitch being restored to the captaincy, Joseph said the failure of co-captain Harumichi Tatekawa to recover from a calf injury and the need to give Horie "a break from the heavy responsibility of leading the team" meant Leitch was the obvious choice.

"He is a good player and leader," Joseph said of the man who led Japan at Rugby World Cup 2015. "Having Shota come on in the second half with his energy will make a difference. To win the match we need to play for 80 minutes and we need our experienced leaders to come on and show composure, discipline and intensity in the later stages."

Five of the eight changes come in the pack with Shintaro Ishihara, Yusuke Niwai and Takuma Asahara forming an all new front row. With five locks out injured, Thompson joins Uwe Helu in the engine room, while Shuhei Matsuhashi comes in to partner Leitch and Amanaki Lelei Mafi in the back row.

Yutaka Nagare and Jumpei Ogura form a new halfback partnership and there is a new pairing in midfield, too, with Yu Tamura and Kotaro Matsushima lining up in the centers.

"That has been forced on us," said Joseph. "Timothy Lafaele pulled a groin last week in the captain's run, William Tupou is suspended, Derek Carpenter has an infection in his leg and Tatekawa's calf is still not right."

"But Tamura has the skill set we need at 12 and his experience will be crucial. We were reluctant to move Kotaro from the wing as he had a good game last week, but Akihito Yamada is back after an outstanding game against Romania and it means we have gone for speed in the centers."

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Japan squad: Shintaro Ishihara, Yusuke Niwai, Takuma Asahara, Luke Thompson, Uwe Helu, Michael Leitch, Shuhei Matsuhashi, Amanaki Lelei Mafi, Yutaka Nagare, Jumpei Ogura, Kenki Fukuoka, Yu Tamura, Kotaro Matsushima, Akihito Yamada, Ryuji Noguchi.

Bench: Shota Horie, Keita Inagaki, Takayuki Watanabe, Kotaro Yatabe, Yo****aka Tokunaga, Fumiaki Tanaka, Rikiya Matsuda, Ryohei Yamanaka.

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Ireland squad: Cian Healy, James Tracy, John Ryan, Kieran Treadwell, Devin Toner, Rhys Ruddock, Josh van der Flier, Jack Conan, Kieran Marmion, Paddy Jackson, Jacob Stockdale, Luke Marshall, Garry Ringrose, Keith Earls, Andrew Conway.

Bench: Niall Scannell, Dave Kilcoyne, Andrew Porter, James Ryan, Sean Reidy, John Cooney, Rory Scannell, Tiernan O'Halloran.
 
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