30k PC?

saffakanera said:
Hi Guys, well with MW2 and SC2 dropping soon, im considering going big and buying a pc for around 30k, what sort of specs am I looking at?
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Well....
I'd say anyone spending 30k on a PC is a bit stupid really..
Your neighbour will spend R12-15k and his performance (for general gaming etc use) will only be about 5-10% worse than yours.

In 12 months, he'll be able to use another R15k and buy a pc with specs double those of the 30k "monster" you have.

So: Question time: Do you REALLY want to spend the last R10-15k JUST for bragging rights?
If you really have too much $ to burn, get a very high-end PSU, case, maybe mobo, CPU fan etc (things you can use when upgrading again later, but IMO it's not worth it to buy a 12k CPU or R3k RAM..)
 
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Frag said:
Your neighbour will spend R12-15k and his performance (for general gaming etc use) will only be about 5-10% worse than yours.
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I'm inclined to believe a R30,000 PC will outperform a R12,000 PC by a margin bigger than 5% to 10%. GTX295 Quad SLI + Core i7 vs Core 2 Quad + GTX260 SLI should give you quite a performance increase (if the game supports SLI of course :p).

If you only upgrade every few years then it makes sense to spend as much as your budget allows. However, I do agree that price/performance wise it makes more sense to upgrade every year or 18 months to mid-high end.
 
well 2000MHz DDR3 ram should be awesome for still a while to come...
it's the CPU's that you should not go overboard with. every marginal increase in CPU speeds will cost exponentially more.

but to be pretty honest here, I too reckon 30k is a bit much on JUST a case.

look, i spent 12k LAST YEAR on a case alone, and I can still run almost anything - then there is the 10k 42" LCD i bought last year too - this only adds up to 22k - you want to spend 30k on the PC alone?
what screen have you got, because my 22k PC will still be way more fun than your 30k MONSTER since you're gaming on a what, 25" ?

why not spend 10-12k on a nice, huge-ass screen too? 18k will go a LONG way for a PC, and you would have a huge screen as well!
 
greggpb said:
I always look at my spend over time... for 30k I would build a 15-20k box... then use the other ten to keep it semi cutting edge for 2 years
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The_Techie said:
I'm inclined to believe a R30,000 PC will outperform a R12,000 PC by a margin bigger than 5% to 10%. GTX295 Quad SLI + Core i7 vs Core 2 Quad + GTX260 SLI should give you quite a performance increase (if the game supports SLI of course :p).

If you only upgrade every few years then it makes sense to spend as much as your budget allows. However, I do agree that price/performance wise it makes more sense to upgrade every year or 18 months to mid-high end.
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There's no game out there now that "needs" GTX295 Quad SLI or i7. Once you're over 60fps the performance difference between the two machines equals 0%. And GTX260 SLI does that quite comfortably at 1920x1080 on all games, I think Crysis as well.
 
Frag said:
Well....
I'd say anyone spending 30k on a PC is a bit stupid really..
Your neighbour will spend R12-15k and his performance (for general gaming etc use) will only be about 5-10% worse than yours.

In 12 months, he'll be able to use another R15k and buy a pc with specs double those of the 30k "monster" you have.

So: Question time: Do you REALLY want to spend the last R10-15k JUST for bragging rights?
If you really have too much $ to burn, get a very high-end PSU, case, maybe mobo, CPU fan etc (things you can use when upgrading again later, but IMO it's not worth it to buy a 12k CPU or R3k RAM..)
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SaiyanZ said:
There's no game out there now that "needs" GTX295 Quad SLI or i7.
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And you don't "need" an LCD monitor, yet we upgrade our old CRTs to LCDs regardless.

SaiyanZ said:
Once you're over 60fps the performance difference between the two machines equals 0%.
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Yet thousands of gamers can tell the difference between 60FPS and 120FPS by the smoothness of the game engine.

SaiyanZ said:
And GTX260 SLI does that quite comfortably at 1920x1080 on all games, I think Crysis as well.
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Well at 1680x1050 on Enthusiast settings with no AA Maxishine (check him out on YouTube) managed 91FPS on Crysis Warhead with an i7 965 at 4GHz+ and 3 overclocked GTX280s in Tri-SLI. :erm:

Better hardware also has a longer useful life, so I'd rather spend R30,000 now and only need to upgrade in 4 years time than to spend R15,000 now and then R15,000 in another year and then another R15,000 the year afterwards, etc.

Based on your statement about 60FPS you'd recommend spending RXXX now on something that can play current games at 60FPS (even if it renders future games at 40FPS) instead of spending RYYY on something that can play current games at 120FPS (even if it renders future games at 80FPS). You can't just look at current performance, you have to keep in mind that games become more demanding and, as such, your machine that gives you 60FPS now is not always going to equate to 60FPS in a few year's time. But that's an argument for another thread :p

Disclaimer: I do agree that it'll be better for the OP to do a mild upgrade now and another later if at all possible. However, if he has to do a major upgrade now then go all-out :D
 
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Keeper said:
is the new skulltrail mobo's coming out soon guys?

i'd say 2 x 295 GTX's in SLI - this is a must.
definitly a corsair HX1000W PSU - it handles everything
definitly i7 with an X58 mobo
with DDR3 gaming ram - possibly 2000MHz if it's not too expensive...

the two GTX295's will handle everything, even if you don't drop 12k on a CPU.

remember, intel OVERPRICE their top of the range CPU's by QUITE a bit:
if you don't take anything else from me take this:
12k for 2 x 295 GTX's in SLI + cheaper CPU will be WAAAAAAAY better than a 12k CPU and a single 295GTX.

for mobo i'd def. go for ASUS or Gigabyte - probably an asus as first choice.

definitly get 2 x 1.5TB drives, and an SDD

i'm sure you could do it - i'll get make you a propper quote later on today, this setup must be discussed thoroughly.....
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But will it play crysis :erm::eek::D
 
Crysis is not a game, it's just one massive benchmark :P Seriously though, show me a game with better visuals and I'll eat my socks.
 
30k is a waste of money. Ever heard of the law of diminishing returns? It never ever makes sense to buy the latest & greatest. But then again it's your money...
 
ponder said:
30k is a waste of money. Ever heard of the law of diminishing returns? It never ever makes sense to buy the latest & greatest. But then again it's your money...
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+1, I for one would know exactly what to buy with 30K and still have a bit saved up lol.
 
A system like that I would definately have a decent UPS between it and Eskom, go for a 3 or 4kVA.


:Posted this before, seems my posts are getting deleted/dropped:
 
Why is everyone recommending more than 4GB Ram? I'm sure he will be on a 32bit OS for a while ;)
 
remybfg10k said:
Why is everyone recommending more than 4GB Ram? I'm sure he will be on a 32bit OS for a while ;)
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Why would you want to run a 32bit OS???

If you're building a top spec PC for gaming, the best choice would be Windows 7 x64.
 
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