7.2 Mbps HSDPA with bandwidth rollover

A question for Vodacom 3G: Shouldn't Vodacom's coverage map now make a clear distinction between 3.6 and 7.2 coverage? The map is an important decision-making tool. (Apologies if it has been answered elsewhere)

While they're about it, please update street names... Quite a few Hendrik Verwoerd or John Vorster Streets have been renamed!
 
No I bought it last month. So bundles purchased before 5th April will not role over? Why dont they say that in the press release? Get a guys hopes up for nothing. pshhh
 
vodacom3g said:
Exactly why we dropped the OOB c/MB rate so drastically (between 50 and 80%) with BB-A.
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50 to 80% means FA if your prices are 500 to 800% over what they should be.

with BB-A. <- but you pay extra for that so whats the point?!

Why not show that you have balls of steel and lower the OOB rate to under cut Virgin Mobile ?
 
Antonf said:
A question for Vodacom 3G: Shouldn't Vodacom's coverage map now make a clear distinction between 3.6 and 7.2 coverage? The map is an important decision-making tool. (Apologies if it has been answered elsewhere)
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I'll back this coment- better coverage maps would be great. Also why not have the coverage maps built into "The GRID"? So you can see the coverage in a certain area simply by viewing your location on the grid.
 
Antonf said:
A question for Vodacom 3G: Shouldn't Vodacom's coverage map now make a clear distinction between 3.6 and 7.2 coverage? The map is an important decision-making tool. (Apologies if it has been answered elsewhere)

While they're about it, please update street names... Quite a few Hendrik Verwoerd or John Vorster Streets have been renamed!
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ALL 3G towers have both 3.6 and 7.2, so surely the coverage map will look the same?

Or am I missing your question?
 
vodacom3g said:
ALL 3G towers have both 3.6 and 7.2, so surely the coverage map will look the same?
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And they all working?
How do you subscribe to receive 3.6 or 7.2 or is it auto depending on your modem/handset?

Will have to test this on my local 3G tower: Using Nokia 5800 which has 3.6 and Samsung Omnia which has 7.2

Btw whats the difference between 3G and 3.5G when it displays on my handset? Some towers in Garden Route display 3G and some display 3.5G - haven't done a speed test but will do it shortly..
 
Simon_B said:
And they all working?
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Yup, but don't confuse 7.2 on the interface with back-haul capacity.
Simon_B said:
How do you subscribe to receive 3.6 or 7.2 or is it auto depending on your modem/handset?
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Function of your modem and the profile you receive from the network. BB-S will get the 3.6 profile, BB-A, the 7.2 one.
Simon_B said:
Btw whats the difference between 3G and 3.5G when it displays on my handset? Some towers in Garden Route display 3G and some display 3.5G - haven't done a speed test but will do it shortly..
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Depends on the handset but most like 3G is just that; 3G-R99 (384/64) and 3G+ is HSDPA, up to whatever speed your phone supports. But rather check in the manual what the manufacturer does. There is no standard.
 
vodacom3g said:
Yup, but don't confuse 7.2 on the interface with back-haul capacity.

Function of your modem and the profile you receive from the network. BB-S will get the 3.6 profile, BB-A, the 7.2 one.

Depends on the handset but most like 3G is just that; 3G-R99 (384/64) and 3G+ is HSDPA, up to whatever speed your phone supports. But rather check in the manual what the manufacturer does. There is no standard.
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So basically 7.2 is enabled on all towers, but whether they can deliver 7.2 is a different matter all together based on the back-haul achilles heel?
 
Keeper said:
think it's till the end of your "next month". I think the expensive OOB kicks in after the "60" days, otherwise you could buy 1 single bundle and keep loading airtime and pay a cheap OOB :p
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Is this correct V3G
 
Weasley said:
Is this correct V3G
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Yes, if I understand the question correctly.

Say you buy a bundle on the 15th of April. It'll last till the end of May.

However, if you use it up before the end of May, you'll still get the same c/MB rate till the end of May.

Obviously this is only on BB-A.

On BB-S, you'll go to your applicable OOB rate once you've used up your bundle.
 
vodacom3g said:
ALL 3G towers have both 3.6 and 7.2, so surely the coverage map will look the same?

Or am I missing your question?
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Sorry, I meant the towers where there's back-haul capacity... Not much point in subscribing to something that doesn't exist where I live/work. In other words, how do I make an informed decision?
 
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"Exactly why we dropped the OOB c/MB rate so drastically (between 50 and 80%) with BB-A."

I would like Vodacom to back up their logic with data user figures. I've stated it before that VC seems to have created BB-A to appease a relative minority of their data customers.(>2gb/month)
What percentage of your Data Customers will actually benefit by BB-A?
Is Vodacom trying to charge the consumers extra for the fact that they claim to have superior coverage - I think so!

Also, I have a contract with VC and my data bundle kicks in on the first of the month. By delaying your rollover date till the 5th you have effectively screwed all your contract customers as the rollover will only kick in as from the 1st May. Is this correct or have I missed something?:confused:

Lets hope your next step is more in line with the "real" not "perceived" requirements of you customer base.
 
Has Vodacom also reduced the per meg price for those of us who are not "on a bundle?" To clarify, I am on a contract (Weekender Plus), but I'm on "MyMeg 0." I don't use enough bandwidth from my cell (And I still only have regular old GPRS so it's too slow to use very much anyway), but I'd still like to see my data charges start coming down at some point.... :-/
 
vodacom3g said:
We should probably move this to the VC forum, but what make and model modem is this and what dash are you using?

Your numbers are suspiciously close to 1800/384.
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I was using my E220 this morning for that.

That's with the latest firmware download off Hawaei.com

Can try get a test done sometime with my B970, however my B970 is at home, whereas I use the E220 at the office.
 
vodacom3g said:
If you're anally attentive to managing your data bundle then this is not for you. Fact.

But for the many, many non-anally attentive people out there, who would prefer to spend their time doing stuff other than watching their usage this product was developed.

Using your own case:

You have a 2G bundle. You watch your usage and as soon as you use up your 2GB bundle (or at least once you realise you've used up your bundle), you buy a new 1GB bundle. Now you panic that you don't use it up. So you first panicked that you're going OOB and now you panic that you don't use your new bundle up. A lot of cardiac stress there. ;)

By buying a BB-A 2GB bundle, you can now use it up and just carry on paying the 2GB rate without having to buy a new bundle and having to panic that you must use it. So it does not matter if you use 10M or 10G after your bundle is finished, you pay the 2G price.

So you commit to a rate by buying a bundle at the beginning of the month and now you don't worry to do bundle management for the rest of the month. You don't have to watch your usage like a hawk, neither do you have to watch any subsequent bundles.

But if you're obsessive-compulsive about monitoring usage, for sure stay on the Standard package. You'll be better off.
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Gotcha ! Thanks..and I got the slight of hand gist there..;)
 
Simon_B said:
Does the 60day bandwidth rollover work with prepaid clients who are not on BB-A (Broadband Advanced) or can only BB-A clients roll over data?

When does this kick in? IE will my bundle expire tonight?

Also why the sudden lift from 0.19c - 0.26c OOB if you use BB-A?
I can understand the need for a service that helps a client when they suddenly go OOB - but the cost increase is beyond understanding. Keep it at 0.19c BB-A and you will win so many users?
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Said it before, nothing is free bud......what they lose on the swings will be made up for on the roundabout..:)
 
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