7.2 Mbps HSDPA with bandwidth rollover

Brieuse said:
Why would I want 7.2 if I don't even get 1.8?
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Don't get petty man, of course everyone wants higher speeds.

Wireless is a very unpredictable medium to transmit information through. In most cases where througput is low, it is because of poor signal quality due to you being too far away from a tower, or because there are a lot of obstacles between you and the transmitter which scatters and degrades the signal.

Here where I am people have been complaining for years about the utterly poor signal, but those same people opposed the allocation of a site for a tower at the local shopping mall.

Until the day Vodacom has a satellite in orbit, we then cannot lay the blame for poor coverage fully on their shoulders.

If you have a 7.2Mbps-capable modem with the latest firmware on it, and am in clear line of sight from a known tower which supports the 7.2Mbps downlink speeds and still cannot get it, then by all means go ahead and complain.
 
Remember guys, this is just the first round of the coming price war. Vodacom seems to be a bit behind, but at least we're seeing some movement in the right direction. I dare speculate the all of this is just steps toward no bundles/flat rate in a years time or so.
 
you my friend, have read one too many mybb articles. the prediction plague has rubbed off on you bigtime.
 
Roll-over of up to 60 days, beware of the catch!

If you buy a bundle today, on 5 April 2009, it will expire on 1 June 2009. (Only 57 days)
If you buy a bundle on 30 April 2009, it will expire on 1 June 2009. (Only 32 days)

The roll-over will only be good for people that buy double the amount of data they previously used per month but do this every second month, as long as you buy the bundle on the first day of the month.
 
FireTelkom said:
If you buy a bundle today, on 5 April 2009, it will expire on 1 June 2009. (Only 57 days)
If you buy a bundle on 30 April 2009, it will expire on 1 June 2009. (Only 32 days)
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I'm still confused, does this apply to the new pre-paid bundles as well? The expiry date of pre-paid bundles used to be 30 days from date of purchase, not tied to the calendar month.
 
ginggs said:
I'm still confused, does this apply to the new pre-paid bundles as well? The expiry date of pre-paid bundles used to be 30 days from date of purchase, not tied to the calendar month.
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That's what I was thinking as well. This deal is looking more and more shady. They're giving something with one hand and taking it back with the other. Unless the majority of people have the bundle for 60 days they won't be able to make the rollover claim - those are the rules.
 
Appears to apply to prepaid as well
From
PREPAID SPECIFIC RULES

Unused MB allocation will be carried over up to the last calendar day of the next month following the month in which the bundle was purchased.
Example:

Customer buys 500MB bundle on 15 April
On 13 May customer has used 250MB and 250MB (500MB allocation - 250MB usage) is carried over until 31 May (18 days effective carry-over)
Example:

Customer buys 500MB bundle on 1 May
On 30 May customer has used 250MB and 250MB (500MB allocation - 250MB usage) is carried over until 30 June (31 days effective carry-over)
Example:

Customer buys 500MB bundle on 1 June
On 30 June customer has used 250MB and 250MB (500MB allocation - 250MB usage) is carried over until 31 July (31 days effective carry-over)
Pursuant to the 20% rule, customers will be allowed to purchase a new bundle in any tier
Any unused MB allocation will be carried-over to the new bundle at the throughput of the new bundle bought
This carry-over will not lengthen the initial 30 day period with the purchase of a new bundle
Example:

Customer buys 500MB bundle on 15 April
By 5 May bundle only 100MB is left within the bundle and customer buys new 500MB bundle (20% rule)
New bundle starts 30 day period with 600MB (100MB carry-over + 500MB bundle allocation)
On 3 June customer has used 100MB and 500MB is carried over until 30 June
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Roadrunner said:
Don't get petty man, of course everyone wants higher speeds.

Wireless is a very unpredictable medium to transmit information through. In most cases where througput is low, it is because of poor signal quality due to you being too far away from a tower, or because there are a lot of obstacles between you and the transmitter which scatters and degrades the signal.

Here where I am people have been complaining for years about the utterly poor signal, but those same people opposed the allocation of a site for a tower at the local shopping mall.

Until the day Vodacom has a satellite in orbit, we then cannot lay the blame for poor coverage fully on their shoulders.

If you have a 7.2Mbps-capable modem with the latest firmware on it, and am in clear line of sight from a known tower which supports the 7.2Mbps downlink speeds and still cannot get it, then by all means go ahead and complain.
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So a full signal and 800 kB/s on a 3.6 connection is being petty?
 
ginggs said:
I'm still confused, does this apply to the new pre-paid bundles as well? The expiry date of pre-paid bundles used to be 30 days from date of purchase, not tied to the calendar month.
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So it's now from date of purchase, till end of the next month. And it applies to new pre-paid bundles as well, at least the ones you buy from today onwards.
 
ic said:
Yep, I specifically supported the VAS charge for 3.6 bcos it helps keep bandwidth hogs away and therefore protects Vodacom's network where backhaul bandwidth is insufficient.
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Actually if you apply your Googling powers, you'll find a post where you specifically stated that you'll be willing to pay a VAS charge to get OOB=IB. ;)
 
Simon_B said:
Ok so I can use HSDPA up to 7.2Mbps on a 2Gig prepaid bundle at 0.19c perMB and get "data rollover" or whatever else u r calling it up to 60days without being on BB-A?
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V3G
U did not answer Simon_B's question.

PLEASE CLARIFY: Is PREPAID BB-S available with 7.2Mbps + rollver or just 3.6Mbps + rollover?
 
vodacom3g said:
So it's now from date of purchase, till end of the next month. And it applies to new pre-paid bundles as well, at least the ones you buy from today onwards.
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Wouldn't this "feature" now cause more congestion on the network at month's end? Previously prepaid bundles had 30 days to expire, regardless of purchase date. Now there will be more users frantically downloading to use up their carried-over bandwidth at the end of the calendar month.
 
ic said:
I vaguely recall suggesting that - albeit a long time ago.

I did some searching, was it somewhere in [thread=40236]this thread[/thread]?

I expect there is however a difference between what I suggested and VCBBA: too much is bundled into VCBBA in a non-transparent way - for example it is easy to calculate how much extra one pays on a 24 month contract for a bundled modem on VCBBS, whereas [comparing again] VCBBA includes 7.2 and flat-rated OOBRs==IBRs and a 'free' modem - but consumers doing comparisons will be wondering how much extra they are being charged on VCBBA for the 'free' modem, as well as how much extra 7.2 is worth and how much extra OOBRs==IBRs is worth.
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With BB-A we're starting to get data in line with voice products.

So with BB-A on contract, there is a certain amount of money to fund a device, just like on voice. So you'll pay the BB-A rates and the 'CIB' (the money available for a device) will fund the device, either fully or with some pay-in, depending on the bundle size.

Again, just like voice on Contract and Top-Up.

On pre-paid, while the rates are the same, there is no CIB.

How much 7.2 or OOB=IB is 'worth' really depends on the user, but as I posted above, if you tend to go OOB by as little as 10%, you should look at BB-A as a potential cost-saver.
 
vodacom3g said:
BB-S: 3.6/1.4, roll-over and normal IB/OOB rates.

BB-A: 7.2/1.4, roll-over and new flat rates.
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Thanks for clarifying this. So 7.2 has nothing to do with Pre vs Post-paid.

Strange...why is 7.2 not available for BB-S users?
If it's about differences in rates for data consumption why should BB-S users not have the advantage of 7.2 speeds?
 
ajax said:
Wouldn't this "feature" now cause more congestion on the network at month's end? Previously prepaid bundles had 30 days to expire, regardless of purchase date. Now there will be more users frantically downloading to use up their carried-over bandwidth at the end of the calendar month.
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Not really, even when all bundles expired at month-end, we never saw a spike in usage on the last few days.

I know it's counter-intuitive but that's what the graphs show.

Again, if you use BB-A wisely, you should not end up in a situation where you 'need' to exhaust a bundle before it expires.
 
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