"A Game of Thrones" discussion thread

Not yet. I'm still deciding whether I should enjoy the series now and then read the books, or read the books and stop watching the series after 3 episodes like I did with that hunk of junk "Legend of the Seeker". What would you advise?

Eeeeh, well, I know Terry Goodkind has some hardcore fans out there, but the books pretty much sucked as much as the series. At least the first one, and that never made me want to read any others. It seemed terribly contrived and 'forced'. Irritated the shart out of me.

Game of Thrones though, is pretty hard-core and brutal. The fantasy setting is almost coincidental: the characters are everything. The series has flagged a bit lately and I'm quite frustrated with the pace of the releases and the lack of substance in the most recent delivery, but the writing is excellent nonetheless. George RR Martin is VERY good at what he does. I'd put him right up there with Robin Hobb, especially in how well they brutalise their protagonists.

I've not seen the GoT yet, but I am really looking forward to it.

Juice
 
The series has started, first two episodes are out and so far I am pretty happy. The production quality and acting are pretty high and the story pretty decent. Digging the dwarf :D

Its basically a fantasy based time piece with some saucy scenes (Like Rome & Spartacus) .

Anyone else started on this series?

No, not yet.
What I am glad to hear is that they are sticking to the grittiness of the book.
 
This is looking very good so far, and gels well with what I remember of the books from when I read them a few years ago. It's certainly some of the most grown-up "fantasy" you'll come across, and as has been said before, the way Martin kills off his protagonists..... oy vey. And it's not that he just kills them either, he butchers them, almost literally in a few cases.

As good as the series has been so far, I can't encourage you strongly enough to read the books too.
 
I think this is a good summing up on the series so far:

The series looks to be moving along at a breakneck pace... and I can't really fault it for that, because the books are so very complex and detailed, and there are so many characters and different threads to follow, and they only have ten or eleven episodes. However, I've read each of the existing books at least six times thus far (and in a few weeks I will start reading them a seventh to prepare for A Dance with Dragons this summer), and I think my brain fills in all of the backstory and details that may not necessarily be shown on screen.

My fiancee has been watching the show with me, and I find myself wondering "how is this coming across to her?". Does half of this even make sense yet? When the characters mention the Eyrie, or Rhaegar and Lyanna, I immediately know these people and places and what they're referring to.

For instance, I know who Rickon is, even though he really hasn't had a part in the show so far. I think he was in one scene, for a brief moment, and not even identified. Did people who haven't read the books even realize there was another Stark child until that scene in Bran's bedchamber? Theon Greyjoy has been in a number of scenes... have they even called him by name yet? Is that weird for people, to just have this guy there, with no explanation of who he is?

I feel like the dire wolves have been almost cast aside in the first two episodes... Ghost and Grey Wind and ShaggyDog haven't even been seen since they were found. The show totally glossed over the part the wolves played in Bran's recovery... suddenly Summer was there to rescue Bran, sure. But where had he been before then?

The Dire Wolves are such a core part of the stories of the Stark children, and I worry that's being lost on people as the show moves along hitting all the major plot points with incredibly accuracy, but at the same time possibly missing a lot of the deeper, important details.

I understand that you'll never get all of the details from a book captured on screen. However how are people going to understand the connection the Starks have with their direwolves, a major plot point, if they aren't shown more? How are they expected to mourn for Lady and realize what an impact that was not only on the children but the other dire wolves, when she was in one scene prior to her end.

Ultimately I think my concern for how the show is viewed by "outsiders" correlates to my concern for the show's longevity (I know it's been renewed for a second season already, but two seasons is still not the seven or eight seasons the entire series will need). Let's face it, the majority of the viewers of this show are going to be people who have never read the books before, and probably won't bother even if they enjoy the show.

So far Game of Thrones on HBO is like a dream come true for ASOIAF fans, but if the series can't capture and hold people's attention in and of itself, we may not get to see the entire run.

written by a webcomic artist I quite enjoy and agree with completely with regards to Game of Thrones.
 
yeah I watched the 1st episode

gonna watch 2nd tonight

mweb uncapped ftw :D

bit confusing with all the different characters though. Who were those two shaggin in the tower??
 
ok, wait... That's not right!?!?

:erm:
No it is, go back and watch the 1st episode. When he gets off the horse, somebody mentions him as being the queen's twin brother (IIRC).

The dwarf cracks me up though.
 
Yes, it is the Queen and her brother doing it in the tower. The Lannisters like to keep it in the family. makes you wonder if that poepal of a prince really is the offsrping of King Robert.
 
ok thats just ewwww

banging your own sister

is she the wife of the big fat dude that rode into town, or the dude that looks like triple H from WWE

:D
 
Watched first 2 episodes this weekend. Looks promising. Production on quite a high level with well known actors and reasonable script and plot...thus far. I hope the standard stays high or even improves as I have seen series like this run out of steam in the past.
 
Episode 3 wasn't that good - hoping Episode 4 is an improvement tonight...
 
Yea, they are following the book to the letter (for a change). So while i know exactly what is going to happen, it also means it can only be good as the pacing will increase. The book is riddled with political intrigues and major surprises which throw the entire "game" into chaos ....and i can't wait seeing it on the tv ;-). The books are known to be unlike the usual fantasy novels where the "hero" is clearly visible and always survive, trust me, in this series people die just when you think they're suppose to be the "good guy" ;-). If you thought the first 2-3 episodes were "interesting" then know this, so far they're simply introducing the characters , the story hardly begun yet :)

As for "running out of steam" . It is based on a book [there are 4 books in the series so far] , so this is not like Lost or Prison Break which eventually run out of steam because the writers ran out of ideas....

They already announced a 2nd season of this series, and chances are it will be based on the 2nd book "A Clash of Kings" : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Song_of_Ice_and_Fire


To put it another way, it's like wondering whether Lord of the Rings will run out of steam after the first movie...
 
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They are following the books so far (which are brilliant) but obviously they are leaving bits out here and there. I know exactly what's going on because I've read the books but I sometimes wonder if it isn't a bit confusing for people who haven't read them to know exactly whats happening. So far so good though, the characters are well cast, I think, and I'm enjoying it thoroughly!
 
Yea, they are following the book to the letter (for a change). So while i know exactly what is going to happen, it also means it can only be good as the pacing will increase. The book is riddled with political intrigues and major surprises which throw the entire "game" into chaos ....and i can't wait seeing it on the tv ;-). The books are known to be unlike the usual fantasy novels where the "hero" is clearly visible and always survive, trust me, in this series people die just when you think they're suppose to be the "good guy" ;-). If you thought the first 2-3 episodes were "interesting" then know this, so far they're simply introducing the characters , the story hardly begun yet :)

As for "running out of steam" . It is based on a book [there are 4 books in the series so far] , so this is not like Lost or Prison Break which eventually run out of steam because the writers ran out of ideas....

They already announced a 2nd season of this series, and chances are it will be based on the 2nd book "A Clash of Kings" : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Song_of_Ice_and_Fire


To put it another way, it's like wondering whether Lord of the Rings will run out of steam after the first movie...

The fact that it is based on a book does not mean it cannot run out of steam due to crappy production or directing or acting. So, no its not like wondering whether the LR would run out of steam. Good books have been made into very crappy movies and series in the past.
 
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