A week with Apple ...

[Romeo_RX]

Yes - so it's years ahead but slower ?
We agree ? Right ?
AMG vs M3 ?

Doe anything ring a bell ?

I can’t tell if my sleep deprivation is handicapping my ability to express ideas or if you are the slow one, so I’ll hold back here.

You are talking about one component of a system. Do you want to agree that the A15 is years ahead, but that iPhones (not the A15) are slower to load apps into memory? I can be okay with you phrasing it like that.

 

[Romeo_RX]

Your car analogy doesn’t work.

 

[Spizz]

Yes - so it's years ahead but slower ?
We agree ? Right ?
AMG vs M3 ?

Doe anything ring a bell ?

How about looking at it as acceleration versus torque.

Android accelerates fast but can't pull anything substantial for a long time (the OS).

Apple accelerates slower but can pull the OS along for many years.

 

[Dolby]

Your car analogy doesn’t work.

It’s an awesome analogy.

The AMGs claimed huge KW and power, but couldn’t do much because of road surface/ wheel-spin etc in most situations

Once over 200kmh (that’s the niche use case that it used infrequently), then it’s great

 

[Dolby]

Apple accelerates slower but can pull the OS along for many years

That’s going to cause a fight.

Who do you think you are that you can talk about and disrespect Apple?!

 

[Romeo_RX]

It’s an awesome analogy.

The AMGs claimed huge KW and power, but couldn’t do much because of road surface/ wheel-spin etc

No, it’s stupid because once the app is loaded, the processor isn’t hampered at all and you get 100% of the speed, all the kilowatts (lol)

 

[Spizz]

That’s going to cause a fight.

Who do you think you are that you can talk about and disrespect Apple?!

But hey, yes Android appears to open apps 1/1000th of a second quicker, but after a couple of years it's burned out because it's had no service or maintenance.

Apple strolls on for many years without loss of performance or sign of slowing down thanks to regular services.

Joking aside, it's that continued familiar experience whether you are using an old 5s or the latest 14 Pro that made me move over to Apple. I was forever chasing the next best Android with gazillions of RAM and dazzling new features, but they are all gimmicks when you compare them to the comfort of an iPhone experience that just rolls on without any complications or hiccups.

Give it a year or two and you'll get it. The 'speed' doesn't matter. Never has.

 

[Romeo_RX]

Screw this, I have a backlog of games that need finishing, bye

 

[Dolby]

But hey, yes Android appears to open apps 1/1000th of a second quicker

You’re doing it again.

Again, who do you think you are saying the Android opens an app quicker than an A series chip?!

A15 is 50% faster than A14, which is 50% faster than A13, which is 50% faster than A12

You saw the stats - A15 still light years ahead of anything released even 3 years ago - and you’re saying Android CAN open an app quicker?

 

[Dolby]

No, it’s stupid because once the app is loaded)

When it’s loaded where?

 

[Spizz]

You’re doing it again.

I'm explaining why I prefer Apple over Android. Nothing more, nothing less. The other claims about A15 and whatever are not mine to make or even care about. I don't, and I thought I had explained why.

Again, who do you think you are saying the Android opens an app quicker than an A series chip?!

A15 is 50% faster than A14, which is 50% faster than A13, which is 50% faster than A12

You saw the stats - A15 still light years ahead of anything released even 3 years ago - and you’re saying Android CAN open an app quicker?

Apple made a claim and you seem to be arguing with anyone with an iPhone as if they made it. I'm really finding your continued insistence on the A15 being slower a bit odd. It's like the muppets over on the covid threads arguing with a doctor about ivermectin.

But hey, okay, is opening an app just down to the SoC or are there perhaps other factors involved?

 

[Dolby]

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When I got the phone, I was under the impressions there were no crashes / it was super super fast / the camera was the best ever / the battery was incomparable to anything in the market / every app is better on iOS than Android / it was consistent / intuitive / best GUI etc

And, well, it's not.

It should just stop there - but it doesn't because the owners will defend this company like no other - and then we get threads like this.

That video I posted ?

It was in reaction to someone that said absolutely impossible that any Android - let alone an old Android - could even match an iPhone. That's the only reason why it exists

 

[AfricanTech]

You’re doing it again.

Again, who do you think you are saying the Android opens an app quicker than an A series chip?!

A15 is 50% faster than A14, which is 50% faster than A13, which is 50% faster than A12

You saw the stats - A15 still light years ahead of anything released even 3 years ago - and you’re saying Android CAN open an app quicker?

You're really being a proper **** about this.

Person can't have an authentic discussion with.

"Wah wah wah my old Huaweie is just as fast, in fact faster"

"Wow, yeah, we see that!!"

"Wah wah wah, how can you say/admit that - your other Apple buddies are going to burn you at the stake"

Grow up bud - this passive/aggressive thing you've go going is just boring.

 

[Dolby]

oh and @Spizz - I didn't even bring up the A15 here ... we (probably me) were going to banned in another thread and I left it. Africantech wanted to go a bit further on the discussion .

I've comes to terms with what I have and I'm trying other tech (though, conspiracy is that either don't have the phone or that I decided to spend R40,000 on phones to troll)

 

[Dolby]

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At the end of the day I just expected more - that's all.

Take what you want from that .

I haven't signed the NDA - so I'm allowed to say that it's got flaws

 

[Spizz]

When I got the phone, I was under the impressions there were no crashes / it was super super fast / the camera was the best ever / the battery was incomparable to anything in the market / every app is better on iOS than Android / it was consistent / intuitive / best GUI etc

I understand. But it seems like your impressions were wrong and I suppose that's on you. Sure many of these claims are objective, but others are subjective and although you disagree with some of those, I don't.

And, well, it's not.

It should just stop there - but it doesn't because the owners will defend this company like no other - and then we get threads like this.

I like my iPhone and prefer it over my A50 Samsung. And if telling you why I prefer it sounds to you that I'm defending Apple, then again that's on you.

That video I posted ?

It was in reaction to someone that said absolutely impossible that any Android - let alone an old Android - could even match an iPhone. That's the only reason why it exists

Fair enough, the results are pretty irrelevant to me although I did find it interesting. I still think you are overlooking why people prefer iOS though. A snappy SoC is just one thing, but you are still missing out on the bigger picture imo.

If you want another analogy, it looks to me like you've moved to the UK and you are buying things in pounds yet complaining how expensive it is in rands. Maybe start to enjoy your phone instead of constantly looking back

 

[AfricanTech]

@AfricanTech

The results shouldn't be so close that a fraction of a second in touch would be difference considering how the A series has come over the past few years ? Remember that Android was released when A12 was around. Again, I just expected more
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That's what makes your video so interesting. So the question here is "Have we reached a level of performance that is so high on all the platforms that despite the improvements in processor speeds, that it's become almost irrelevant for "short haul" functions - to use your car analogy, robot to robot is close enough in performance and Apple doesn't care that some Androids 'beat' them on this metric - of course, the petrol heads like yourself do care which is why you're banging on about it. I feel your disappointment but please recognise that it's your disappointment - most of the rest of us couldn't give a shirt - whether you find that palatable or not, we really don't care.

So your Huawei Android opens apps faster than the iPhone 13 Pro Max - who cares besides you?

* Apple states that the two high-performance cores are 15% faster and 50% more energy-efficient than the Apple A11's, and the four high-efficiency cores use 50% less power than the A11
* Apple states that the two high performance cores are 20% faster with 30% lower power consumption than the Apple A12's, and the four high efficiency cores are 20% faster with 40% lower power consumption than the A12's
* A14 is capable of delivering up to 11 Trillions of operations per second. So, the AI performance of the iPhone 12 processor with the A14 chip is going to be 83% more than the A13 chip
* A15 contains 15 billion transistors, a 27.1% increase from the A14's transistor count of 11.8 billion. It includes dedicated neural network hardware that Apple calls a new 16-core Neural Engine. The Neural Engine can perform 15.8 trillion operations per second, faster than A14's 11 trillion operations per second (+ 43%)

Ja, so? Is your beef that this performance doesn't show up in the real world the way you'd expect it to?

Fair enough, it doesn't. Now what?

 

[AfricanTech]

At the end of the day I just expected more - that's all.

Take what you want from that .

I haven't signed the NDA - so I'm allowed to say that it's got flaws

I'm truly sorry that you've been left with such disappointment. I genuinely recommend that you ditch those disappointing devices and go back to devices that don't leave you feeling like you've eaten ashes every time you pick them up.

 

[Dolby]

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It all comes to down to expecting more and expecting a (much) larger gap between the two .

And although I can look past some issues, some drive me up the wall (which are bad developers)

That's what makes your video so interesting. So the question here is "Have we reached a level of performance that is so high on all the platforms that despite the improvements in processor speeds, that it's become almost irrelevant for "short haul" functions

Another question I'd love to have is the same 'test' with the iPhone XS.

Judging by the performance jumps from A12 > A13 > A14 > A15 - it should be quite something to see .

 

[Dolby]

I'm truly sorry that you've been left with such disappointment. I genuinely recommend that you ditch those disappointing devices and go back to devices that don't leave you feeling like you've eaten ashes every time you pick them up.

I maybe had higher expectations that you ?
What did you before your current phone?
Another iPhone ?