CataclysmZA
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If this results in a drop to under R600 for their Business Gold uncapped, I'm switching over from Telkom next month.
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Afrihost ADSL price cuts planned
stevenv
Expert Member
ROFLMAO
Probably a little unrealistic at this point, but yeah, i'd jump ship for that too.
KikzAzz
Expert Member
Have to agree with you you on this. . . but any saving on the pocket will also be nice.
+1
avr-rulez
Expert Member
in the mean time they rake in the cash while Tickets are not handled - lines are not fixed - nobody bothers to callback.
7 day old fault and I still cant get my line speed back.
"Live Chat" that replies 3 days later...
Absolute crap
Ever so sorry I switched to them.
@ AFR..everyone - dont bother replying - I am sick of the "I am sorry etc etc"
7 day old fault and I still cant get my line speed back.
"Live Chat" that replies 3 days later...
Absolute crap
Ever so sorry I switched to them.
@ AFR..everyone - dont bother replying - I am sick of the "I am sorry etc etc"
Lower costs means that more people flock to uncapped at high speeds. The service deteriorates. But the good thing is that capped packages are becoming much cheaper.
If I wasn't getting 10mbps unshaped for 590 I would switch to afrihost 150 gig capped unshaped in a heartbeat.
If I wasn't getting 10mbps unshaped for 590 I would switch to afrihost 150 gig capped unshaped in a heartbeat.
Inevitability
Expert Member
I am amazed with the guys who would rather have quality over a price cut.
I say we demand for both! Why not?
If AH wants to pass on the cost savings they're getting from Telkom, awesome! Well done to them.
And if the service degrades as a result, we laugh at them and move on to where we get low price AND high quality.
Demand drives everything. I couldn't give a rat's toenail about the "rands and cents" economics of it... If the demand is high enough, the universe will find a way to make it happen.
When nobody wants to pay the extortionate R170 line rental anymore and we all cancel our ADSL, that's when Telkom will drop the price.
But they know we're never gonna do that so they just keep milking the cash cow.
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I say we demand for both! Why not?
If AH wants to pass on the cost savings they're getting from Telkom, awesome! Well done to them.
And if the service degrades as a result, we laugh at them and move on to where we get low price AND high quality.
Demand drives everything. I couldn't give a rat's toenail about the "rands and cents" economics of it... If the demand is high enough, the universe will find a way to make it happen.
When nobody wants to pay the extortionate R170 line rental anymore and we all cancel our ADSL, that's when Telkom will drop the price.
But they know we're never gonna do that so they just keep milking the cash cow.
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Chevron
Serial breaker of phones
1. Last few price cuts have lessened quality from ISPs. There's way too much shaping and throttling going on now.
2. That R150 line rental you pay is for upkeep of the copper.
Inevitability
Expert Member
Exactly! So take Keanu Reeves' advice and give your ISP "the finger" and move to the ISP with the lowest price. Cos if they're all gonna shape you, you might as well get it at the cheapest rate. And if everyone did the same, it would only take a short while before the ISPs will realise that they need to differentiate themselves, and you'll find someone will start easing off on their shaping. It's just a matter of supply and demand.
Like I said, the "rands and cents" economics don't mean a thing to me. If the day were to arrive when they saw people leaving the service en masse, believe me they will find a way to make it work for cheaper. It's just the way the world works.
Chevron
Serial breaker of phones
You're drunk.
Afrihost is one of the ISPs that shape the least and actually works during the day.
So kindly **** Off.
This is your free market at work. You can pay less and get more shaping. Rest of us would rather pay and get less shaping..
Inevitability
Expert Member
But wait... if we all demand low prices and good quality, won't that only be a good thing?
And if we talk with our wallets, won't that result in higher pressure on ISPs to deliver on our demands?
Why would you rather pay and get less shaping when you can NOT pay and get less shaping?
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Alcohol is haraam!!
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When it comes to uncapped, I think the general consensus is that you can't beat Afrihost, IMHO they aren't the usual thieves like mweb, they actually care about their service levels and try balance them with business, I'm sure others will agree that for R50 bucks a month they should rather buy more IPC capacity rather than lower prices, so we get more "bang for our hard earned bucks"
Chevron
Serial breaker of phones
This exactly.
I think we'd like to lower prices but improve quality in the same move. We'd definitely not like to sneak in some new rules as a new provision for getting a lower price.
What we could do is look at what our client base are asking for. It seems like a lot of people are saying they would pay less even if it means throttling. I personally think throttling is awful, wouldn't be my choice, but it something we could consider based on the feedback.
The general plan though is to see what savings are passed on based on our current and already planned infrastructure and base price revisions accordingly
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Shayd
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Yup and as the guy who has driven the cost cuts required for this to occur, let me explain what happens.
First you look at your product and drop it's quality to the bare minimum. Then you look at minimizing support infrastructure costs so reliability goes down. Then you look at cutting your support teams to the bare minimum and drive more automated systems and self help systems. This leads to the wonderful experience you receive when phoning Telkom for example.
A more unreliable, slower product with worse customer service. All this just so I can get a couple of bucks off the account seems insane. I would prefer they look at their product portfolio and then look at using half their savings to improve their service and half their savings to reducing the cost. This should lead to a more stable product and customer centric organisation that also just reduced prices.
I am willing to bet this would be better for the business long term than just trying to be the cheapest guy out there.
If you want to fight adsl costs your best bet is to have a fight with Telkom as the line and the IPC costs are the largest cost in delivering adsl.
Chevron
Serial breaker of phones
Have you even read the thread? :wtf:
One retarded guy is not a lot of people. Majority of the people in this thread prefer a quality connection. If they want more shaping and throttling at a cheaper price they can go to Axxess.
kripstoe
Expert Member
I think we'd like to lower prices but improve quality in the same move. We'd definitely not like to sneak in some new rules as a new provision for getting a lower price.
What we could do is look at what our client base are asking for. It seems like a lot of people are saying they would pay the same for better quality. I personally think throttling is criminal, wouldn't be my choice, but it something we would not consider based on the feedback.
The general plan though is to see what savings are passed on based on our current and already planned infrastructure and base price revisions accordingly
There you go. Fixed.