Afrihost - complaint email to Gian Visser

KirstyPanda

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Good day Gian,

It is with sadness that I write this email, which will also be posted online.

We have been customers with Afrihost for the better part of two years now. We have 2 registered domains, a DSL capped date plan, and Rain account.

When moving from our previous service provide to Afrihost, we had excellent service. I had to phone the Call Centre a few times to assist with migrating the accounts and although I had long waiting times, my issues where always addressed and rectified over the phone. When I logged a support ticket I received response within 24 hours, if I sent an email I would receive a response within 3 days and when I made use of the online chat service I was connected to an agent within a few minutes.

Over 2018 so far, with every attempt to contact Afrihost I have been left disappointed an angered. Earlier in the year I changed the billing information on my private account, the next month my old information was used which then bounced. I went to online to double check the billing information and it showed the updated details in my client. I contacted the call centre to rectify this, I was told that there had been an error and I must EFT to settle the account. This error, which was not mine, ultimately led to unnecessary additional costs for me – firstly for the debit order bouncing and for the cost of the EFT.

In the beginning of this month I need to add a VAT number onto the account and call for assistance. I was unable to get through, I then sent an email ticket and attempted to contact online via chat. The chat was never answered and I received a reply to the email only after 2 weeks. Fortunately, I did contact the call centre after a few days again and the agent assisted me with the VAT number addition.

On Tuesday, 15th May 2018, I noticed that my email account was no longer working. This had to have occurred between 10.32 and 10.35 am as I had sent 2 emails and only the first had been received. Unfortunately, I only realised about 2 hours later and contacted Afrihost to assist. I was told that the agent was unable to assist and had to log a call request for a technical agent to call me back. I received a call from **** later in the day and she attempted to find out what the issue was. She was very patient over the phone and confirmed that she would try get the issue rectified. A while later it appeared that emails where slowly being received and sent. On Wednesday, 16th May 2018, the emails seemed to be working but there was a major delay in both sending and receiving emails. However, later in the day it kept requesting that I log into my account and I contacted Afrihost again for assistant. A agent once again explained that he would have an agent from the technical team call me back, I never received this call back. Yesterday, 17th May 2018, no incoming emails were able to be received to my Outlook, however, I was receiving them on my cell phone inbox. I could send emails from my account through Outlook, but could not send out from my cell phone. I once again contacted the call centre and was told tha they would have an agent call me back urgently. ******* contacted me and asked me to explain the issue again, I explained and she checked into it for me. She explained that she could see there was an issue with the server and she would send a request to the server technical team to rectify. I received no feedback at all over the course of the day, and the emails are still not working as they should be working, This morning, 18th May 2018, I once again contacted the call centre for feedback, the agent was helpful and went to see if ******* was available to check the status, he returned to the call and told me that ******* was off and he would see if **** was available to assist. **** was not available and he said he would log another call back request, at this point I was very angry and told him that after over 72 hours of my emails not working as they should, I was not going to wait for a call back, as I need the issue rectified. He then went to see if there was another technical assistant available which apparently there was not. Over this time he also spoke to his supervisor who told he to get my number for a call back. I then requested to speak to the supervisor, he went to find out and returned to say that the supervisor would not talk to me but I should leave my details for a call back. I think continued to tell him that I was very angry with the service I had received in response to this issue. That after 3 days it was still not rectified and I was unable to speak to anyone that could assist. He assured me that someone was working on repairing the issue (I still do not even know what the issue is) and he would get back to me with feedback.

I am very disappointed by the service I have received in response to my current issue, I have been unable to do my own work for 3 days due to the fact that there has been an issue with the server. At no point has it been explained to me what the actual issue is or expected turn around time for this to be rectified.
 
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AfriGenie

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Good day Gian,

It is with sadness that I write this email, which will also be posted online.

We have been customers with Afrihost for the better part of two years now. We have 2 registered domains, a DSL capped date plan, and Rain account.

When moving from our previous service provide to Afrihost, we had excellent service. I had to phone the Call Centre a few times to assist with migrating the accounts and although I had long waiting times, my issues where always addressed and rectified over the phone. When I logged a support ticket I received response within 24 hours, if I sent an email I would receive a response within 3 days and when I made use of the online chat service I was connected to an agent within a few minutes.

Over 2018 so far, with every attempt to contact Afrihost I have been left disappointed an angered. Earlier in the year I changed the billing information on my private account, the next month my old information was used which then bounced. I went to online to double check the billing information and it showed the updated details in my client. I contacted the call centre to rectify this, I was told that there had been an error and I must EFT to settle the account. This error, which was not mine, ultimately led to unnecessary additional costs for me – firstly for the debit order bouncing and for the cost of the EFT.

In the beginning of this month I need to add a VAT number onto the account and call for assistance. I was unable to get through, I then sent an email ticket and attempted to contact online via chat. The chat was never answered and I received a reply to the email only after 2 weeks. Fortunately, I did contact the call centre after a few days again and the agent assisted me with the VAT number addition.

On Tuesday, 15th May 2018, I noticed that my email account was no longer working. This had to have occurred between 10.32 and 10.35 am as I had sent 2 emails and only the first had been received. Unfortunately, I only realised about 2 hours later and contacted Afrihost to assist. I was told that the agent was unable to assist and had to log a call request for a technical agent to call me back. I received a call from **** later in the day and she attempted to find out what the issue was. She was very patient over the phone and confirmed that she would try get the issue rectified. A while later it appeared that emails where slowly being received and sent. On Wednesday, 16th May 2018, the emails seemed to be working but there was a major delay in both sending and receiving emails. However, later in the day it kept requesting that I log into my account and I contacted Afrihost again for assistant. A agent once again explained that he would have an agent from the technical team call me back, I never received this call back. Yesterday, 17th May 2018, no incoming emails were able to be received to my Outlook, however, I was receiving them on my cell phone inbox. I could send emails from my account through Outlook, but could not send out from my cell phone. I once again contacted the call centre and was told tha they would have an agent call me back urgently. ******* contacted me and asked me to explain the issue again, I explained and she checked into it for me. She explained that she could see there was an issue with the server and she would send a request to the server technical team to rectify. I received no feedback at all over the course of the day, and the emails are still not working as they should be working, This morning, 18th May 2018, I once again contacted the call centre for feedback, the agent was helpful and went to see if ******* was available to check the status, he returned to the call and told me that ******* was off and he would see if **** was available to assist. **** was not available and he said he would log another call back request, at this point I was very angry and told him that after over 72 hours of my emails not working as they should, I was not going to wait for a call back, as I need the issue rectified. He then went to see if there was another technical assistant available which apparently there was not. Over this time he also spoke to his supervisor who told he to get my number for a call back. I then requested to speak to the supervisor, he went to find out and returned to say that the supervisor would not talk to me but I should leave my details for a call back. I think continued to tell him that I was very angry with the service I had received in response to this issue. That after 3 days it was still not rectified and I was unable to speak to anyone that could assist. He assured me that someone was working on repairing the issue (I still do not even know what the issue is) and he would get back to me with feedback.

I am very disappointed by the service I have received in response to my current issue, I have been unable to do my own work for 3 days due to the fact that there has been an issue with the server. At no point has it been explained to me what the actual issue is or expected turn around time for this to be rectified.
That's an incredibly frustrating experience, and it's definitely not the type of experience that I want one of our Clients to have. I want to follow-up on this for you, and do my best to get this resolved. Can you please PM me your Afrihost account details.
 

Robinm_za

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I feel this same frustration.

I posted a complaint about their Rain promotion of 3 Months Free graphic which did not allude to any exception or exclusions, and yet I only got 2months and 10 days.

It took more than a week to receive a response to my first ticket. Follow ups took just as long. Short pasted replies and after insisting I get Gian's attention to this very obvious false advertising I was told Gian would call me "soon" Twice I was told this. Its been more than 4 months and still no correspondence from Gian or his PA.

How these people stay in business, I don't know. As soon as the double data Rain runs out I will leave immediately.
 

AfriMan

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I feel this same frustration.

I posted a complaint about their Rain promotion of 3 Months Free graphic which did not allude to any exception or exclusions, and yet I only got 2months and 10 days.

It took more than a week to receive a response to my first ticket. Follow ups took just as long. Short pasted replies and after insisting I get Gian's attention to this very obvious false advertising I was told Gian would call me "soon" Twice I was told this. Its been more than 4 months and still no correspondence from Gian or his PA.

How these people stay in business, I don't know. As soon as the double data Rain runs out I will leave immediately.
Sorry that you were frustrated here, Robin. We do state on the landing page that the 3 month (and not 1 month) include the month that you sign up in. It's definitely not false advertising, but I am very sorry that your expectations weren't met :(
 

Milano

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I agree about the billing issues this year. I experienced the same issues whereby your updated bank details would display as updated - yet they would still run the debit order against your old bank details. Very frustrating.
 

AfriMan

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I agree about the billing issues this year. I experienced the same issues whereby your updated bank details would display as updated - yet they would still run the debit order against your old bank details. Very frustrating.
It depends on when the update is run. If you update them after we'e started the billing run on the 23rd, they are updated but will only take effect in the following billing run.
 

Milano

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It depends on when the update is run. If you update them after we'e started the billing run on the 23rd, they are updated but will only take effect in the following billing run.
The visual design of your billing section is 10/10. You should just add these caveats (like will take effect ...) and some confusing options that even your staff were unable to talk me through correctly. I cannot recall the specifics now however you should run scenarios with those payment options and you will quickly pick up some ambiguities and lack of clarity which frustrate the client's ability to quickly get payment up to date after a change in bank details. Visually excellent, functionally lacking though.
 

AfriMan

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The visual design of your billing section is 10/10. You should just add these caveats (like will take effect ...) and some confusing options that even your staff were unable to talk me through correctly. I cannot recall the specifics now however you should run scenarios with those payment options and you will quickly pick up some ambiguities and lack of clarity which frustrate the client's ability to quickly get payment up to date after a change in bank details. Visually excellent, functionally lacking though.
Totally get where you are coming and will definitely mention to our designers and UX people :(
 

AfriMan

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Dear KirstyPanda
Gian doesn't give one flying banana for your problems.
Do what the others have said, take your business elsewhere.
Sorry you feel that way - you've posted similar comments on other threads. I'm really sorry that we let you down in the past :(
 

Telkomclient

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My bank was so convenient that they have resend my proof of payments to myself and to your email address that again you didn’t get. All these actions costing me a lot of money unnecessary at banking costs (failed debit order is R50 each time) R150 airtime to my bank and to your offices ) R20 banking costs to resend the proof of payments) all together I have spent R520 unnecessary money lost that I could have used to get more data. Second problem your sim card was failing and you have replaced my sim with a new one. My old sim data wasn’t transferred to my new sim so I am loosing those 57 gig data plus you debit order me to pay for that lost data. There is no other word for these actions than theft. Then you still got the craziness of adding R50 on each failed debit order for admin costs on MY billing account of payments that was already been paid. Not my fault you got no control over your debit order facility and useless billing system that has no idea of payments been done



Refers this letter to Dean (director of finance) please. Otherwise I will send a copy of this letter directly to him and the CEO (Gian)

Several occasions I have paid my bill in advance of your debit order date, because I was afraid other costs would be deducted from my bank and then there won’t be enough money in my account for your debit order.



I have contact your finance department and confirmed my action and they have given me at first your ABSA banking details and your accounts email address where to my proof of payment must be send.

I have an option at my bank to let them-(the bank) directly send my proof of payment to your given email address what I have done.

Two payments has been done but then I got threatening emails from your finance department that my account with you will be terminated if I do not make arrangements for payment and my account is in arrears. I have telephonically contact the finance several times and told them it has been paid long time ago, they ask me to send them my proof of payment that I don’t have because my bank didn’t send my proof of payment to me but to YOU. After a few failed debt deductions (costing me bank costs) and a lot of fighting, Wendy has given me your Standard bank account saying that your ABSA bank reflects payment slower.

My last R125 top-up payment was done on the same day as the top up purchase at your standard bank hoping everything would be now in order. NO NOT!!! Again my account with you is in arrears, again your failed debit on my bank account order costing me banking costs plus afrihost admin fee.

There is a serious problem at your offices. Either you need to get a separate email address for only use of proof of payments or get a cell phone where to this proof of payments can be sms to. Or someone needs to have a more frequent look at your bank account to notice payments by the customers

With all the failed debit order against my bank account that is costing me banking costs and to contact my bank and begging them to resend all those proof of payments to myself also costing me phone airtime as well as banking costs. Together all these banking costs and phone airtime wasted to my bank and to your offices to get just your system in correct order I could have bought a lot more data that I need so much. And the sim card I got from you using cell c data is not registered with cell c so I am not able to move my business to cell c directly thought I had to give prove of residence and ID doc to do business with you
 

AfriNatic

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My bank was so convenient that they have resend my proof of payments to myself and to your email address that again you didn’t get. All these actions costing me a lot of money unnecessary at banking costs (failed debit order is R50 each time) R150 airtime to my bank and to your offices ) R20 banking costs to resend the proof of payments) all together I have spent R520 unnecessary money lost that I could have used to get more data. Second problem your sim card was failing and you have replaced my sim with a new one. My old sim data wasn’t transferred to my new sim so I am loosing those 57 gig data plus you debit order me to pay for that lost data. There is no other word for these actions than theft. Then you still got the craziness of adding R50 on each failed debit order for admin costs on MY billing account of payments that was already been paid. Not my fault you got no control over your debit order facility and useless billing system that has no idea of payments been done



Refers this letter to Dean (director of finance) please. Otherwise I will send a copy of this letter directly to him and the CEO (Gian)

Several occasions I have paid my bill in advance of your debit order date, because I was afraid other costs would be deducted from my bank and then there won’t be enough money in my account for your debit order.



I have contact your finance department and confirmed my action and they have given me at first your ABSA banking details and your accounts email address where to my proof of payment must be send.

I have an option at my bank to let them-(the bank) directly send my proof of payment to your given email address what I have done.

Two payments has been done but then I got threatening emails from your finance department that my account with you will be terminated if I do not make arrangements for payment and my account is in arrears. I have telephonically contact the finance several times and told them it has been paid long time ago, they ask me to send them my proof of payment that I don’t have because my bank didn’t send my proof of payment to me but to YOU. After a few failed debt deductions (costing me bank costs) and a lot of fighting, Wendy has given me your Standard bank account saying that your ABSA bank reflects payment slower.

My last R125 top-up payment was done on the same day as the top up purchase at your standard bank hoping everything would be now in order. NO NOT!!! Again my account with you is in arrears, again your failed debit on my bank account order costing me banking costs plus afrihost admin fee.

There is a serious problem at your offices. Either you need to get a separate email address for only use of proof of payments or get a cell phone where to this proof of payments can be sms to. Or someone needs to have a more frequent look at your bank account to notice payments by the customers

With all the failed debit order against my bank account that is costing me banking costs and to contact my bank and begging them to resend all those proof of payments to myself also costing me phone airtime as well as banking costs. Together all these banking costs and phone airtime wasted to my bank and to your offices to get just your system in correct order I could have bought a lot more data that I need so much. And the sim card I got from you using cell c data is not registered with cell c so I am not able to move my business to cell c directly thought I had to give prove of residence and ID doc to do business with you
I can see that you are really frustrated here and I totally understand where you are coming from.

From what I can see it looks like you are trying to pay your account in advance and or perform an EFT payment to us. This really isn't the way our system works or how it was designed. So it seems like the cause of your issues lies there.

I definitely want to help you sort this out and I am sure we can get down the bottom of this if we work together. What I would like to do is get you in touch with somebody from our Accounts Team so we can reconcile your account.

Again I would like to mention that we do have a system in place that's built to help you. When it comes to billing it would be best if you made use of our debit order option. This way I am sure you won't have an issue.

Please send me a PM with your account information so I can get this process on its way.
 

Telkomclient

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Ok end results of my complain -------- Still Afrihost added a few R50 admin fee's for their own failure to have control over there debit orders on a account that has been paid up in full. Plus they still charge me for data they have failed to transfer to my new sim, data I am paying for now and never will have the opportunity to be using that data. What kind off people you employing because my experience the people there have got no clue of proper bookkeeping not even mention there ability to manage customer care. I will be using Telkom now that is a bit more expensive but at least my data don't get stolen, my money don't get stolen and there's no need for fighting for basic human rights. Mark my words now they will be charging me a canceling fee of R999 no way those assholes wont see one more sent from me. Your more than most welcome to summit me to court for any more money likewise you stole data and money likewise it is my admin rules not to be paying anymore for something I don't get. See you in court
 

AfriNatic

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Ok end results of my complain -------- Still Afrihost added a few R50 admin fee's for their own failure to have control over there debit orders on a account that has been paid up in full. Plus they still charge me for data they have failed to transfer to my new sim, data I am paying for now and never will have the opportunity to be using that data. What kind off people you employing because my experience the people there have got no clue of proper bookkeeping not even mention there ability to manage customer care. I will be using Telkom now that is a bit more expensive but at least my data don't get stolen, my money don't get stolen and there's no need for fighting for basic human rights. Mark my words now they will be charging me a canceling fee of R999 no way those assholes wont see one more sent from me. Your more than most welcome to summit me to court for any more money likewise you stole data and money likewise it is my admin rules not to be paying anymore for something I don't get. See you in court
We only charge you admin fees if there was a failed payment of some kind. If it was our fault I am pretty sure that the account managers who were working with you would have credited you.

We don't transfer LTE-A data from one simcard to another. We can credit you for the data you haven't used. You can use this credit for any service you want.

I am sorry that you will be moving away. From what I can see our Team has done everything in their power to help you sort this out.

I wish you all the best for the future.
 
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