Amending the Constitution on land is becoming unavoidable

Here we have the Cape Party as an alternative but the name itself limits it to just that region and 2019 is a National Election.
If all the people that have suddenly moved down to the Cape vote ANC or EFF, the current DA lead is going to be eroded.
Frankly as it stands, for property owners and clear thinking people there is no viable alternative.

Even the Cape Party isn't really an alternative even for people in the Cape.... what they want is not in the interests of SA or the Cape in the medium-long term really.... They are just a bit less cooky than the Sovereign State of Good Hope whackjobs..

The DA (as much as I detest some of their stances, and the current goings on) are still the only real viable option in this country and we need to get to the point where 2 parties have a chance of winning.. it will bring considerably more stability to the country in the long term...
 
Same for me really...

I don't WANT to vote for them, but they are the only real opposition to the ANC so diluting my vote just to spite them isn't necessarily in the best interests of the country in the medium-long term...

The way I see it is that the DA will have to form a coalition, so as long as I vote for the opposition I will not diluting my vote and I will still send a message to the DA.
 
The way I see it is that the DA will have to form a coalition, so as long as I vote for the opposition I will not diluting my vote and I will still send a message to the DA.

Proportional representation makes that a bit more complicated... you could vote for a small party that ultimately doesn't manage to get a seat in parliament and then your vote is wasted.
 
Proportional representation makes that a bit more complicated... you could vote for a small party that ultimately doesn't manage to get a seat in parliament and then your vote is wasted.

Yes, but if I vote for the DA they will not automatically get an extra seat. I'm sure COPE will get a few seats so I will be voting for them.
 
  • Fact. Around 70% of our population live in urban centers.
  • Fact. We have a total of 37 000 farm owners in South Africa
  • Fact. We have around 28 million or so black South Africans living in poverty.


Will the land of 37 000 farmers uplift 28 million people?
No, not even close.
Will those living in cities want to mass migrate back to rural areas to eek out an existence as subsistence farmers? No

We might start with farmland, then unoccupied areas around the cities, but very quickly we will realize this did not even put a dent in our poverty numbers.

Not even mentioning that an empty piece of land has no electricity, water, sewerage etc. Usually this costs millions to lay down, and is only funded by things like transfer duties and municipal levies. 80% of the municipalities are already broke, and presumably the new inhabitants will be too poor to pay for any of the above so the land will just sit empty with a few shacks on it and nothing will change in terms of financial well-being for those people.

Once we go down the route of saying, you are black you are owed something, and you are white and whatever you have is somehow 'stolen' then there is no going back. Empty land and farmland is not going to solve anything. And once the general population believes their only way out of poverty is to seize assets, then where to next? Businesses? Office parks? Residential areas in cities?

I agree with Max in his article. Its as if people in general aren't thinking rationally or projecting into the future at all. There is this enormous gap between land expropriation and addressing poverty which the EWC loons cannot fill, but yet just want to continue with anyways and the consequences be damned.

You can see the train wreck coming in slow motion. What a disaster this is going to be!
 
Yes, but if I vote for the DA they will not automatically get an extra seat. I'm sure COPE will get a few seats so I will be voting for them.

The same COPE whose leader was happily a member of the ruling party till he was kicked from the trough?
 
You edited out the bit I said it will be on me to find out if there is a land claim going forward. With my existing house, I would sell to the government to limit my losses hopefully...

Why would government pay you for your land/house when they can just take it for free?
 
Yes, but if I vote for the DA they will not automatically get an extra seat. I'm sure COPE will get a few seats so I will be voting for them.

Cope is a valid choice.. yes...

Not one that I would make over the DA honestly, but still a valid choice.
 
I want to vote for a party who wants a non radical South Africa.

You are then left with no choices. Radical wining, radical policies, radical actions, radical leaders, ..... There are no proper alternatives. :cry:
 
Why would government pay you for your land/house when they can just take it for free?

That's where the wording comes in. Remember this whole issue came about with sellers not agreeing a price with government? The willing buyer/seller argument?

In my utopian view of how it would work is initial value is done by the valuer general, I think thats the name of the office, and I would take that value. Instead of holding out and getting my house expropriated. Yes, its open to massive abuse, which is why I said utopian view...
 
The anc will EWC no matter what the results. Way to powerful a tool to discard.
 
Top
Sign up to the MyBroadband newsletter
X