Android devices are for the masses, easier to get/afford. Nothing special. The day Apple decides to attack the lower market segments all hell will break loose, but I think Apple is happy with their position as it currently stands.
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Android devices are for the masses, easier to get/afford. Nothing special. The day Apple decides to attack the lower market segments all hell will break loose, but I think Apple is happy with their position as it currently stands.
Clearly you've never seen or even heard of a Desire HD.
If this Desire HD and an iPhone 4 were to be offered at the same price - same package deal - i.e. both are equally accessable/affordable/available ... which one will sell more? Which one is more "Desireable"?
I say the iPhone. How do the sales numbers compare internationally between these two devices? Any got the numbers? Imagine a lower cost iPhone were to hit the market?
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kingrob
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Hmmm, of everyone I know in (and since the Desire HD launched) I would have to vote 100% in favour of the Desire HD. My sister's entire company, my entire company and all the Apple 3GS owners I know have bought the phone in recent months.
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kingrob
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The Desire HD any day of the week & twice on Sunday.
So glad I could finally uninstall iTunes and get rid of the 320MB updates when I dumped iOS for Android.
Im free & jailbreaked.
Shayd
Expert Member
And right there is Apple's market. People who want it because it is desirable. Not cause it's better but just cause the other cool kids have one.
I prefer to buy my products based on features and quality not based on the "coolness" factor.
Elimentals
Honorary Master
As a developer I can say that yes there is a fragmentation issue with Android esp when you trying to do specific functions or trying to do something that has changed in the recent libs but at the end of the day its my problem not a users one. What I can advice for people is to look at an Android like looking at a PC.
If you have software like say a PDF Reader and a game like Assassins Creed:
You not gonna expect to run AC on your old Pentium 3 running Windows XP, yet you can run the PDF Reader on it. If you have a recent computer you can certainly buy the game knowing it will run, doesn't matter if you using AMD or Intel, ATI or Nvidia.
Now the same goes for Android phones. If you get a well known brand, you can certainly know that it will be covered. If you just want to surf the Internet, edit documents use a currency converter, edit a document listen to music, play reversi or solitaire and shoot off some email, the old and even slow Android phones going to do the job just fine but if you going to play 3D intense games make sure you get something recent + decent.
I know some people would say that is what make iPhone so good cause you can do everything*. The problem is what about the people that only want email + solitaire, and dont have enough money to buy the biggest thing on the market. Shall we deny them phones just because they dont want latest games or Photo Editor? If you buy an Android phone at the same price as the latest iPhone you can be sure it will run whatever apps you place on it. If you go cheap and get a R99 special at MTN dont expect it to run a top of the line FPS or resource hungry apps.
* I have come across plenty of software in the iPhone market that also don't work on the older devices so this argument is not totally true.
If you have software like say a PDF Reader and a game like Assassins Creed:
You not gonna expect to run AC on your old Pentium 3 running Windows XP, yet you can run the PDF Reader on it. If you have a recent computer you can certainly buy the game knowing it will run, doesn't matter if you using AMD or Intel, ATI or Nvidia.
Now the same goes for Android phones. If you get a well known brand, you can certainly know that it will be covered. If you just want to surf the Internet, edit documents use a currency converter, edit a document listen to music, play reversi or solitaire and shoot off some email, the old and even slow Android phones going to do the job just fine but if you going to play 3D intense games make sure you get something recent + decent.
I know some people would say that is what make iPhone so good cause you can do everything*. The problem is what about the people that only want email + solitaire, and dont have enough money to buy the biggest thing on the market. Shall we deny them phones just because they dont want latest games or Photo Editor? If you buy an Android phone at the same price as the latest iPhone you can be sure it will run whatever apps you place on it. If you go cheap and get a R99 special at MTN dont expect it to run a top of the line FPS or resource hungry apps.
* I have come across plenty of software in the iPhone market that also don't work on the older devices so this argument is not totally true.
Elimentals
Honorary Master
I have both phones and I can tell you my iPhone doesn't even leave my desk. Hell except for testing purposes I barley even look at it.
Smiley_lauf
Expert Member
Simple math: Android + Recent 3G/HSDPA Data Bundle = BB^Infinity
BB are now obsolete. It is official.
BB are now obsolete. It is official.
Jonno2343
Well-Known Member
Android will, without a doubt be the leading smartphone platform. It is diverse, supports thousands of hardware configurations and form factors.
It's like the Windows of the mobile world in that you can stick it on anything and it'll run.
If an app is written for something like a DHD with a 4.3" 800x480 res screen, it will not work well on something smaller with half the resolution and screen size.
It's like the Windows of the mobile world in that you can stick it on anything and it'll run.
Gartner also thinks that WP7 will do quite well, reaching a 20% market share and 2nd place position by 2015. http://www.pcworld.com/article/224706/android_windows_phone_to_surpass_iphone_gartner_says.html
Yes, but end users are DIRECTLY affected by developers. Apps are a big part of the smartphone nowadays and if devs can't write an app that will work with more than a few phones, it will stop them from doing so.
If an app is written for something like a DHD with a 4.3" 800x480 res screen, it will not work well on something smaller with half the resolution and screen size.
Elimentals
Honorary Master
Then that developer is an idiot and not following the SDK guidelines and trust me on this in that case I dont even want to see what the rest of his code looks like.
If you follow the guidelines properly 3.5" or 4.3" doesn't make a difference.
Which phone from any of the Android manufacturers matches the iPhone 4 in sales? Or does it take an army of different Android devices to outsell one iOS device? Yep. David against the Philistines. David won.
We were told the Galaxy S would kill the iPhone. We were told the Galaxy Tab would kill the iPad. We were told the Xoom would kill the iPad ...
Xoom after two months can't even get to the 100 000 mark. iPad 2 in one month = 4 000 000.
We were told the Galaxy S would kill the iPhone. We were told the Galaxy Tab would kill the iPad. We were told the Xoom would kill the iPad ...
Xoom after two months can't even get to the 100 000 mark. iPad 2 in one month = 4 000 000.
Smiley_lauf
Expert Member
Problem with Xoom is the price tag, and no form factor; iPad2 offer all that.
Roman4604
Executive Member
Saw a quote professing Apple are doing more turnover selling iPad2 Smart Covers than Motorola are selling Xooms.
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Elimentals
Honorary Master
Dude your argument is null and void, because we have options we can select a HTC or a Samsung or a Asus
You trying to make it a Golf GTi vs Toyota argument ITS NOT, its a VW vs Toyota world as Android users are not forced into one little box where one size fits all.
I would really and truly worry if it was something akin to Golf GTi beating Toyota cause that would have said iPhone is really crap, which it is not.
I like a iPhone it truly is an amazing product its just that I like an Android more.
Sl8er
Executive Member
+1
If saying the quality of a product is based on the numbers sold, were true...then ANY supercar out there would be of the absolute poorest quality -seeing so few are sold compared to your mass produced cars.
Better marketing does not equate to better a product.
Shayd
Expert Member
Lol, I love it when the iphone lovers use the single product argument.
In what market anywhere in the world is the market better served by having only one product. Damn commie mindset. Bring on the hundreds of androids, let me pick the one that fits my needs and price range.
Apple will have it's followers, let them have their 15-20% market share. We will not stop till we hit 60%.
Sent from my apple stomping, berry crushing droid! Samsung Galaxy S.
In what market anywhere in the world is the market better served by having only one product. Damn commie mindset. Bring on the hundreds of androids, let me pick the one that fits my needs and price range.
Apple will have it's followers, let them have their 15-20% market share. We will not stop till we hit 60%.
Sent from my apple stomping, berry crushing droid! Samsung Galaxy S.
E x a c t l y . Thanks. So the large volumes of Android devices sold says zero about it being better than iOS.