Android set to dominate mobile

icyrus said:
The fact that you don't understand how the system works isn't a fault of the system.
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Hmm, seems like it would have been a relatively easy thing to build in (because the OS does have that capability... but it is just buried in the system).
And it seems like millions of iPad users don't understand it either, because it is one of the first things they google for! :D

Here's another newsflash for you... Users don't have to understand the system.. They just have to be able to use it in an intuitive way. ;)
And when you are done with an app... the intuitive thing to do is to close it.
 
Garyvdh said:
Hmm, seems like it would have been a relatively easy thing to build in (because the OS does have that capability... but it is just buried in the system).
And it seems like millions of iPad users don't understand it either, because it is one of the first things they google for! :D

Here's another newsflash for you... Users don't have to understand the system.. They just have to be able to use it in an intuitive way. ;)
And when you are done with an app... the intuitive thing to do is to close it.
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What is the difference between closing it and going to the home screen? In essence what is the difference between the home button and a close app button in your mind?
 
icyrus said:
What is the difference between closing it and going to the home screen? In essence what is the difference between the home button and a close app button in your mind?
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Here is for me the be-all argument on multitasking.
I work for an international company and have Skype on my phone always on as that is my work number. The support center is on SIP for text communications. I also do some work on the side in SA using my Cell number. I can swap between all 3 without cutting anyone off, even if I want to ssh to a server.

I can do that like I am doing right now sitting at a coffee shop on the beach, just using my phone.
 
Lydon said:
Fragmentation is exactly why I'm wary of Android. I prefer having certain standards in place.
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Are you talking from a client or a developer point of view. As this problem only really effects developers.
 
If you looking for a keyboard then the Desire Z is for you.
 
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TJ99 said:
You're wrong, here's why:

1. From Gingerbread on, Google doesn't allow these custom interfaces (that only slow down the phone anyways) anymore. So no more Sense(less), no more UXP on the SE phones, no Touchpizz on the Samsung, etc. This is a good thing IMO, since those interfaces are just bloatware normally, and I'd rather install my own customizations.

2. I guess copy & paste is too difficult for some people... If that's the case then yes, by all means use iWhatever. If you are looking for a music app that works in a similar way though, only better, and that isn't infected with the Applesness, then just use the choice of champions for years, Winamp. It syncs wonderfully (and wirelessly I might add) with Android, and the Android app is an awesome player as well.

3. I don't know where you get that from, my X10 lasts the whole day, and I use it a LOT. The battery life has gone down a bit with Froyo, but it still lasts a full day. Obviously the thing that uses the most power is the display, not multi-tasking as the Apple marketing machine would have you believe. Although yes, I've heard the Desire's battery life isn't that great.
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1. If you're right, that's great. A much needed improvement. However, I think that you'll still have to wait for the manufacturer's update. I would like to see Google take full control, and push the updates out themselves.

2. Copy & paste is easy enough, but when your music collection is > 12,000 songs, iTunes does a great job of surfacing favourites that you have't heard for a while. As far as I remember, WinAmp is only a music player, so that means using different solutions to sync each different type of media. iTunes isn't perfect, but it does offer an all-in-one media solution that nothing else comes close to! Even Nokia have tried to offer a media solution - what are Google waiting for?

3. Perhaps my X10 had a dud battery, but I used to have to put it on charge after lunch, just to make it through the day. When I Googled it, it didn't sound like I was alone!

Don't get me wrong, I'm not an Android-hater; there's lots of good about Android. I think the competition is great because Apple and Google will continue pushing the envelope and we as consumers will benefit!
 
icyrus said:
What is the difference between closing it and going to the home screen? In essence what is the difference between the home button and a close app button in your mind?
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Um, Look I know being an Apple devotee sometimes clouds your thinking and all... but it's actually fairly easy. Try to concentrate while I explain it. You ready? Here we go....
The Close Application button actually closes the application. Clicking the home button does not close the application but takes you back to the home screen.
Got it? :D see, you can grasp simple concepts like this when you try hard enough! ;)
 
BeVonk! said:
E x a c t l y . Thanks. So the large volumes of Android devices sold says zero about it being better than iOS.
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O come on the software industry and the automobile industry is two different worlds they have different driving factors and cost implications that aren't remotely similar.
 
Garyvdh said:
Um, Look I know being an Apple devotee sometimes clouds your thinking and all... but it's actually fairly easy. Try to concentrate while I explain it. You ready? Here we go....
The Close Application button actually closes the application. Clicking the home button does not close the application but takes you back to the home screen.
Got it? :D see, you can grasp simple concepts like this when you try hard enough! ;)
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Tiresome.

The point which you are ignoring is that when you leave the app for the home screen it may as well be closed as it is no longer in operation.

Next time try being witty without looking like such an idiot.
 
icyrus said:
Tiresome.

The point which you are ignoring is that when you leave the app for the home screen it may as well be closed as it is no longer in operation.

Next time try being witty without looking like such an idiot.
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WHATS THAT?erm so you have never heard of multi tasking?:whistle:

I'm not an android or apple fanboi but that is supposed to be how you multi task quickly and efficiently IMO
 
TJ99 said:
You're wrong, here's why:

1. From Gingerbread on, Google doesn't allow these custom interfaces (that only slow down the phone anyways) anymore. So no more Sense(less), no more UXP on the SE phones, no Touchpizz on the Samsung, etc. This is a good thing IMO, since those interfaces are just bloatware normally, and I'd rather install my own customizations.

2. I guess copy & paste is too difficult for some people... If that's the case then yes, by all means use iWhatever. If you are looking for a music app that works in a similar way though, only better, and that isn't infected with the Applesness, then just use the choice of champions for years, Winamp. It syncs wonderfully (and wirelessly I might add) with Android, and the Android app is an awesome player as well.

3. I don't know where you get that from, my X10 lasts the whole day, and I use it a LOT. The battery life has gone down a bit with Froyo, but it still lasts a full day. Obviously the thing that uses the most power is the display, not multi-tasking as the Apple marketing machine would have you believe. Although yes, I've heard the Desire's battery life isn't that great.
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:confused: I'm currently messing around with the Sense UI beta on 2.3 (Gingerbread). In fact, Sense offers hardware acceleration, something vanilla Android does not do, thus speeding up the browsing experience.
 
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BeVonk! said:
On the matter of tablets: http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/11/gartner-apple-will-dominate-tablet-space-for-years-android-won/
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That is purely a prediction, it could be right, it could be wrong. My problem is we dont really have Android tablets in the market to accurately predict what the market is going to look like. Its all thumb suck. Ask me in December when the Android tablets are properly available and the sales where poor or good.

Example there is people like me that wants an Android tablet but we are holding our for that one device that is not even off the factory floor yet (Asus Eee Pad transformer) So unlike iPad where everyone is in the same camp and can go get what they want our camps are not even built yet.
 
Understandably they do this for a living, I have full access to the Gartner portal, and ive seen a few reports from Gartner vs Panorama Consulting on ERP and how the big three would fair in the future, turned out that many yrs later, Panorama was pretty spot on, Gartner not so.
I find it difficult to ascertain how they make their predictions, as the tech industry is cut throat with each company trying to release something better than the other.

BeVonk! said:
This whole thread started - and is based on - a Gartner report.
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Just when Google caught up with the iPhone they discovered Apple's already far down another road with another wildely successful invention, the iPad. Now they have to chase that one ... and when they do catch up Apple will be well down another succesful path again. Some are innovators and leaders. Others are chasers.
 
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