Apple iPhone 5 unveiled

Roman4604 said:
Here's another camera related one ... http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/26/lumia-920-low-light-shootout/

There's no denying the superiority of Nokia's phone cameras, however as in most things engineering, there are trade-offs. For someone like me who will use my phone's camera for some occasional snaps/clips, the penalty of a 65% weight increase (iPhone5 vs 920) is not worth the improvement in camera performance.
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The real challenge isn't weight, it's depth. They talked about it in the presentation - making the iPhone as thin as it is but still improving the camera took a lot of engineering. The Pureview 808's camera adds a huge bulk to it.
 
I still laugh at the peeps who was waiting to see the laser projected keyboard and superthin Iphone 5. My S2 still kicks but... come on Samsung show us your next Big Thing !
 
Cayseeb said:
I still laugh at the peeps who was waiting to see the laser projected keyboard and superthin Iphone 5. My S2 still kicks but... come on Samsung show us your next Big Thing !
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Only the greenest of the green internet users believe those concept videos/ photos... Jokes on you my man.
 
I find this whole "size of the phone" dynamic rather interesting. A while back it seemed the idea was to design as small a phone as possible (I am referring to width and height). We had tiny devices coming out. Then it was decided that we needed bigger screens, no doubt as a result of internet use on our phones, so suddenly height and width were not an issue any more and we had some monstrous phones coming out. Now we suddenly seem to be preoccupied with having the thinnest phone and height and width are not a concern, or at least less of a concern. And we find ourselves nit picking based on 50g difference in weight.

Are we honestly just lead by the manufacturers or do they give us what we are not even aware we wanted? Do they need to come up with one design feature that allows them to brag (ie thinnest phone - even when it isn't, biggest screen, most DPI - even when the human eye cannot differentiate between 320DPI and 330DPI but they'll brag).
 
ClintZA said:
Are we honestly just lead by the manufacturers or do they give us what we are not even aware we wanted? Do they need to come up with one design feature that allows them to brag (ie thinnest phone - even when it isn't, biggest screen, most DPI - even when the human eye cannot differentiate between 320DPI and 330DPI but they'll brag).
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100%!!
 
ClintZA said:
Are we honestly just lead by the manufacturers or do they give us what we are not even aware we wanted? Do they need to come up with one design feature that allows them to brag (ie thinnest phone - even when it isn't, biggest screen, most DPI - even when the human eye cannot differentiate between 320DPI and 330DPI but they'll brag).
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The market dictates not the manufacturers,the iphone 5 is the ultimate example of this since Apple was adamant that 3.5inch was the ideal size yet now due to consumer demand it has buckled and given the market what it wanted.

Also colour screens from the days of the t68 is what changed the phone size design direction since different media is available on colour screens.
 
http://www.gforgames.com/gadgets/iphone-5-vs-samsung-galaxy-s3-benchmarks-who-crushes-who-25394/

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All those reports claiming the iPhone to be the fastest?? :rolleyes:
 
genetic said:
http://www.gforgames.com/gadgets/iphone-5-vs-samsung-galaxy-s3-benchmarks-who-crushes-who-25394/

galaxy-s3-vs-iphone.jpg


All those reports claiming the iPhone to be the fastest?? :rolleyes:
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Surely by now most have realised that the truth is not important to many iFans? ;)

I had a suspicion that a lot of the tests were using the dual core SGS3. Even in saying that, would a difference of 200 points on those tests really be visible in real world use? Is it a matter of bragging for the sake of it?

Oh, and prepare for the comments to now change to ones revolving around the iPhone getting "fairly" near the speeds of the SGS3 but only using two cores... :)
 
Last night, I was watching series and using whatsapp on my phone at the same time. (Series was playing on one corner of the screen while I whatsapped.) I want to see someone do that on an iphone5!
 
hawker said:
Last night, I was watching series and using whatsapp on my phone at the same time. (Series was playing on one corner of the screen while I whatsapped.) I want to see someone do that on an iphone5!
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That is not normal Android behavior in fact Google frowns on it (Not that they going to stop people making the apps that does it) just that you should not expect this on every phone/App.

And yes, I know the Samsung Note 2 sell split view as a feature as well.
 
AlphaJohn said:
That is not normal Android behavior in fact Google frowns on it (Not that they going to stop people making the apps that does it) just that you should not expect this on every phone/App.

And yes, I know the Samsung Note 2 sell split view as a feature as well.
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I'm well aware that it's not standard Android behaviour, but the fact that I have the ability to do this on my S3 BY DEFAULT (stock ROM, not rooted etc) is pretty cool.

Modern phones are slowly heading towards "true multitasking."
 
hawker said:
I'm well aware that it's not standard Android behaviour, but the fact that I have the ability to do this on my S3 BY DEFAULT (stock ROM, not rooted etc) is pretty cool.

Modern phones are slowly heading towards "true multitasking."
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Android is true multitaksing yes but as per Google Dev in responce to CM's announcement to include Onskreen into Stock:

Dianne Hackborn 15 Feb 2012 +54
Okay, let me please please beg you not to do this. I can guarantee you this introduces all kinds of application compatibility issues. We work really hard to give our developers a consistent environment where their apps will operate correctly across all the devices Market runs on, not being impacted by negative reviews from bad devices that they should not have to deal specially with.

If you start making your own distributions of Android behaving in such fundamentally different ways, I suspect we are going to need to start doing things to prevent you from impacting our app ecosystem. I'm not sure what, but I could imagine things such as restricting how users can interact with Market apps on these devices (not allowing reviews or such).

We have let a lot of things in this area slide -- for example to be allowed to include Market on your device you are supposed to fully pass CTS. However, if you start really diverging from the core Android platform (I would argue this takes you well into the realm of a fork rather than a customization) then some deep issues are going to come up about how we handle these custom builds.

We have been putting a lot of thought and work for a number of years into how to let Android applications run on increasingly diverse and dynamic screens. Doing this correctly, without impacting our app developers in a negative way, is a really challenging problem. I also think it is something that needs to be done at the mainline platform level, not as a customization, because doing it right is going to require new well defined interfaces with applications for them to interact with it, possibly starting with just a facility they need to use to opt in to it.
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You are welcome to read the rest of the conversation over at https://plus.google.com/100275307499530023476/posts/ViCME1bb8F6
 
undesign said:
Just glad you guys are having fun in an Apple thread. Knock yourselves out and keep it going. :)
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Apologies, I made an assumption that this was for a discussion about all things relating to the iPhone, both positive and negative. If not, could they please change the title to "Apple iPhone 5 unveiled - fans and positive comments only" ;)
 
ClintZA said:
Apologies, I made an assumption that this was for a discussion about all things relating to the iPhone, both positive and negative. If not, could they please change the title to "Apple iPhone 5 unveiled - fans and positive comments only" ;)
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Apology accepted. :)
 
cerebus said:
Geekbench is tough to do cross platform comparisons in. But sgs3 gets thrashed by iPhone 5 in an anandtech's entire suite of benchmarks, both dual and quad core. So you can stop rolling those eyes at me mister.
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Anything favouring the iPhone5, you'll grasp to...
 
hawker said:
Last night, I was watching series and using whatsapp on my phone at the same time. (Series was playing on one corner of the screen while I whatsapped.) I want to see someone do that on an iphone5!
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SGS3? thats so begining of the year...

This is more current:

[video=youtube;hOX3HYDwTCY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOX3HYDwTCY[/video]

Oh and hawker you might wanna watch from 2 min mark, talking about multitasking.

</troll>

/me runs.....
 
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