Apple lambastes fragmented Android and outdated Samsung

For the end user, fragmentation is not that much of an issue. Developers have a hard time carefully designing UI's to deal with the up scaling.

Some of them do a horrible though.
 
Fragmentation drives open source. Apple are too mentally retarded to see this. If it wasnt for the thousands of forks we have had in linux, we probably wouldnt have android... or linux on so many different types of devices.

Fragmented is Apple code for, "you operating system runs on too many devices and theres not a snowballs chance in hell we will be able to keep up at this pace".

Anyone who thinks that "fragmentation" is a serious issue for android simply doesnt understand open source. Whenever I hear the "fragmented" argument, I always think, "what a myopic short sighted idiot".
 
Rocket-Boy said:
Lol, Apple trying to use desperate tactics to scare users back to them.
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I think not... From 86 million iPhone sales in 2011 to 133 million in 2012.

Pretty impressive growth that, even with the tiny screens.
 
ghoti said:
Fragmentation drives open source. Apple are too mentally retarded to see this. If it wasnt for the thousands of forks we have had in linux, we probably wouldnt have android... or linux on so many different types of devices.

Fragmented is Apple code for, "you operating system runs on too many devices and theres not a snowballs chance in hell we will be able to keep up at this pace".

Anyone who thinks that "fragmentation" is a serious issue for android simply doesnt understand open source. Whenever I hear the "fragmented" argument, I always think, "what a myopic short sighted idiot".
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Nicely Said
 
Says the guy that still uses the same casing from 2 years ago...

ooops...yes it is taller now :)

I love fragmentation!
I upgrade my phone every few months...
from cutom roms to Stock roms...what a pleasure!
My Galaxy note 1 with new JB4.1.2 runs like a dream!
 
1st sign that Apple is scared, and they should be.

When you take an Android device out of the box, you have to sign up to nine accounts with different vendors to get the experience iOS comes with. They don't work seamlessly together.
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Can anyone tell me what 9 logons he is talking about? Cause all I remember is how I swear at iOS everytime it ask me for a dam password be it itunes, App store or even iCloud. Its driving me nuts. On Android I entered my account once and never again.
 
Lol outdated Samsung - so what's changed in the iPhone over the past 6 years? :D
 
ghoti said:
Anyone who thinks that "fragmentation" is a serious issue for android simply doesnt understand open source. Whenever I hear the "fragmented" argument, I always think, "what a myopic short sighted idiot".
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If you don't think fragmentation is an issue for any developer who wants to deploy to Android I can only assume they you don't know anything about development.

It is not a major issue however as most Android devices will not be the target for most app developers. Google's biggest problem with Android is the carriers.
 
AlphaJohn said:
1st sign that Apple is scared, and they should be.



Can anyone tell me what 9 logons he is talking about? Cause all I remember is how I swear at iOS everytime it ask me for a dam password be it itunes, App store or even iCloud. Its driving me nuts. On Android I entered my account once and never again.
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When I switched on my Galaxy Note 2 for the first time I got prompts to log in to Gmail, G+, Facebook, Dropbox, email, Samsung account etc. This was done only once ever so it was hardly an inconvenience. Also he's talking crap, they do work seamlesly together. My Note 2 pwns the iPhone 5, and it was cheaper too.
 
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Fragmentation is a good thing as it means that you will have a difficult time in exploiting the same security vulnerability across a variety of devices.

For me, fragmentation is a non-issue. There might be a slight learning curve in adjusting to another version of Android, but so what?
 
ghoti said:
Fragmentation drives open source. Apple are too mentally retarded to see this. If it wasnt for the thousands of forks we have had in linux, we probably wouldnt have android... or linux on so many different types of devices.
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Does anyone think that Linux is a model of strong user experience and broad popular appeal? The Linux model, unfortunately, is not one that a commercially minded handset manufacturer would seek to emulate.

Fragmented is Apple code for, "you operating system runs on too many devices and theres not a snowballs chance in hell we will be able to keep up at this pace".
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Apple simply wouldn't ever even try to keep up that kind of pace. That's how they've operated for the past 15 years and it's worked fantastically for them.

Anyone who thinks that "fragmentation" is a serious issue for android simply doesnt understand open source.
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Anyone who thinks 'fragmentation' isn't a serious issue for app developers doesn't understand the complex economic issues facing app developers. You're trying to apply models of one paradigm to another.

For me, fragmentation is a non-issue. There might be a slight learning curve in adjusting to another version of Android, but so what?
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Learning curve is not the primary issue with fragmentation. Crippling the attempts of app developers to create coherent experiences across all devices in a single OS is a major problem when you have hundreds of specifications and different OS releases across the spectrum in which you're trying to develop.
 
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cerebus said:
Does anyone think that Linux is a model of strong user experience and broad popular appeal? The Linux model, unfortunately, is not one that a commercially minded handset manufacturer would seek to emulate.


Apple simply wouldn't ever even try to keep up that kind of pace. That's how they've operated for the past 15 years and it's worked fantastically for them.


Anyone who thinks 'fragmentation' isn't a serious issue for app developers doesn't understand the complex economic issues facing app developers. You're trying to apply models of one paradigm to another.



Learning curve is not the primary issue with fragmentation. Crippling the attempts of app developers to create coherent experiences across all devices in a single OS is a major problem when you have hundreds of specifications and different OS releases across the spectrum in which you're trying to develop.
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Tell me more on how the Windows platform conforms to this and be successful.... ?

Its part of being a developer to have fragmentation.

Guess what, the whole WORLD has it, when you create a website, do you only create it for one device and platform? I don't think so.

Creating a product only for one platform only means you will limit yourself on potential profits.
 
cerebus said:
Anyone who thinks 'fragmentation' isn't a serious issue for app developers doesn't understand the complex economic issues facing app developers. You're trying to apply models of one paradigm to another.

Learning curve is not the primary issue with fragmentation. Crippling the attempts of app developers to create coherent experiences across all devices in a single OS is a major problem when you have hundreds of specifications and different OS releases across the spectrum in which you're trying to develop.
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Sounds like you have load of Android experience, and can point out the fragmentation issues you had with your applications. Would you be so kind as to give us a hyperlink to your application on Google market?

I would just like to know if and how much experience you had letting you talk about this issue as an authoritative figure. (And no I will not take someone elses example's or press as prove I want to see your apps)
 
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