Apple lambastes fragmented Android and outdated Samsung

I was challenged not to comment negatively ("troll") on Apple for two weeks. I gave the challenger four.
 
cerebus said:
android-fragmentation-visualization.jpg


Security issues.

Gingerbread STILL runs the majority of phones by percentage of any Android release.

App compatibility suffering due to fragmentation.
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I rest my case....

Typical Apple fanboy response. Showing large graphics that has nothing to do with Developer API's and harping on security issues (Something that even iOS suffer from)

This is why I want an example of your app you made and the problems you faced re fragmentation.
 
JStrike said:
If you want to target 90% of Android devices, you need to target Gingerbread. Do you now see the problem?
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No, that is where you are wrong. The latest Android APIs allow you to build a single app and it works on anything from Android 2.x to Android 4.x.
 
AlphaJohn said:
Not every one is working for such a tops secret company like you claim to be with, so yes there is nothing wrong with what I asked. Hell I do it even without being asked in my Sig.
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Just because you do, doesn't mean other people want to
 
JStrike said:
If you want to target 90% of Android devices, you need to target Gingerbread. Do you now see the problem?
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Wrong.
icyrus said:
It's like dealing with children. Google's own stats show the numbers of which version of Android is on how many devices.
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Yes they do.
icyrus said:
You don't have to listen to anyone, have a look at Google's stats of devices and their version numbers.

At this point I can only assume you are trolling or retarded.
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Would those be the stats that show Android 4.x is on 45.1% ?

http://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html
 
AlphaJohn said:
Yet they all share the same Google applications, be it Google Drive/Mail/Plus and so on. Remember Android is modular so even if the OS doesn't update to the latest doesn't mean the included apps does the same.



Not from you if you did not write an Android app no. Cause 9 times out of 10 Apple fanboys make it out to be far worst than it really is.
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Show us your proof that Android isn't fragmented.
9 times out of 10 is is some Android sheep claims it isn't as bad as it is
 
I've just sold my one iPad 4. Wife using other one and one daughter is using the iPad 2. The only Apple product I now use is the iPad Mini (which I genuinely like a lot) ... but the rest of their stuff is now off my radar. One just cannot live with iOS any more ... it is outdated. My iPad Mini is used for a a few specific tasks and it does those tasks very well, but it just cannot be my main tablet. My Note 10.1 is just so versatile, open, light and practical ... a serious tablet user's dream. The iPad 4 is just too heavy and too limited (locked down) to be a workhorse device. It is a very nice toy at home, but for real work it doesn't make the grade, unless you are into photo editing where it truly excels (no argument that that screen is awesome and the apps are great for creative work).

Android has won me over. I though by getting into the iPad 4's Apple could convince me to stay loyal, but I just cannot do so any more. What Android now offers is just too powerful. When one has spent months with an Android device and then tries to switch back to iOS one immediately starts swearing like a drunk sailor. Dragging-and-dropping without iTunes from any computer and a USB drive quickly grows on you. iTunes should be declared a swear word.
 
Even my wife - an Apple fan of note - told me that her next phone will not be an iPhone again but an Android: Galaxy IV or Xperia z.
 
AlphaJohn said:
I rest my case....

Typical Apple fanboy response. Showing large graphics that has nothing to do with Developer API's and harping on security issues (Something that even iOS suffer from)

This is why I want an example of your app you made and the problems you faced re fragmentation.
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Exactly. Imagine if you were to try and make a similar graphic for all windows computers.

We not saying fragmentation does not exist. We saying it is a non issue for 99% of users and most developers know fragmentation has always been there and we deal with it ONLY IF it affects our app. In most cases it does not.

Over lunch I was chatting to the two guys in the office with iPhone5 and asked if they had come across apps that could not handle the extra height screen and the only app they could find was the Sandton City Mall app that has a black bar at the bottom on the screen because it cannot handle the taller screen.

Users do not really care about security. If they did we would not have had so many users using IE6.

The majority of android devices are 16:9 (or 16:10 with a virtual button bar) and that is why is it easy to support 95% of devices with a single app with very little trouble. The APIs from Google make sure your app is backward compatible.

Fragmentation is FUD.
 
XRayA4T said:
Exactly. Imagine if you were to try and make a similar graphic for all windows computers.

We not saying fragmentation does not exist. We saying it is a non issue for 99% of users and most developers know fragmentation has always been there and we deal with it ONLY IF it affects our app. In most cases it does not.

Over lunch I was chatting to the two guys in the office with iPhone5 and asked if they had come across apps that could not handle the extra height screen and the only app they could find was the Sandton City Mall app that has a black bar at the bottom on the screen because it cannot handle the taller screen.

Users do not really care about security. If they did we would not have had so many users using IE6.

The majority of android devices are 16:9 (or 16:10 with a virtual button bar) and that is why is it easy to support 95% of devices with a single app with very little trouble. The APIs from Google make sure your app is backward compatible.

Fragmentation is FUD.
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Oh really, Google's magical API's make sure the app is backwards compatible? So when you target a 4.2 API, it will just magically work on a gingerbread device?
You clearly are not a developer
 
JStrike said:
Oh really, Google's magical API's make sure the app is backwards compatible? So when you target a 4.2 API, it will just magically work on a gingerbread device?
You clearly are not a developer
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Actually I am and I know this because I wrote a quick Android app. Maybe I should be clearer and say the latest SDK allows you to target multiple versions of the Android API. You build the app and the SDK compiles it so that it works on all versions of Android.
 
BeVonk! said:
Even my wife - an Apple fan of note - told me that her next phone will not be an iPhone again but an Android: Galaxy IV or Xperia z.
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Each to her own. But don't mistake that anecdotal evidence as representing the whole.
For each person that changes from iPhone to some android phone, 4 people change from android to iPhone. I would take that with a pinch of salt, as the data comes from Apple not an independent source, but it is still very telling any which way you look at it
 
XRayA4T said:
Actually I am and I know this because I wrote a quick Android app. Maybe I should be clearer and say the latest SDK allows you to target multiple versions of the Android API. You build the app and the SDK compiles it so that it works on all versions of Android.
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Oh really? If I make an app using the latest features in Android, when I built it the SDK will somehow make it magically work on gingerbread?

I am now calling you out as lying. I am an Android developer. What you are saying is just plain old lying now
 
Gingerbread shows largest distribution because a lot of devices that runs on gingerbread cannot be upgrade. For example my wife's Galaxy pocket and my old Galaxy y.
 
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